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On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 14:20 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:13:50 -0500 |
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> Homer Parker <hparker@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > And what did Gentoo get out of it? |
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> > > What I remember is Gentoo putting in lots of work randomly changing |
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> > > things until things worked, and ending up not knowing what most of |
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> > > those changes were or why they were done. |
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In the beginning there was a method... |
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> The end result is that |
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> > > there's still a random smattering of multilib-related mess |
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> > > cluttering up ebuild internals that doesn't actually do anything |
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> > > except cause intermittent breakages. Doing experiments is great as |
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> > > a way of understanding the problem, but it isn't how you deliver a |
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> > > solution. That takes a lot more work, and someone has to be |
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> > > prepared to do it. |
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> > The hell? Other distos where still thinking of how to |
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> > implement multilib and we had it. I know first hand as I trashed a |
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> > system trying out the latest-n-greatest.. And the next round fixed |
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> > it. The -emul packages from then on along with the multilib profiles |
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> > have worked fine. |
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> ...so why are people running around demanding that reinventing multilib |
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> is the number one priority and has to be in EAPI 5 immediately then? I |
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> was under the impression that your fellow developers don't consider the |
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> -emul packages to be an adequate solution. If that isn't the case, and |
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> the existing mechanism is in fact fine as you claim, then great, we can |
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> ignore multilib from an EAPI perspective. |
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And now it needs revamped.. I see no problem with re-investigating the |
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problem to make it better/easier/whatever. |
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> I can only go on what your colleagues are claiming here. I suggest if |
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> you're upset at the suggestion that Gentoo doesn't have a decent |
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> multilib implementation then you take it up with all the people who are |
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> demanding the PMS team provide them with one. |
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I can only suggest you keep track of your train of thought.. In the |
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beginning vs now are two completely separate issues. We were first, is |
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it surprising the method needs looked at? No. |
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