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On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:18 PM, <waltdnes@××××××××.org> wrote: |
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> Question... when Sun made OpenOffice depend on Java (also a Sun |
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> product) did Gentoo developers run around suggesting that Java be made a |
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> part of the core Gentoo base system? I don't think so. If a user wants |
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> to run GNOME badly enough, he'll switch to systemd. I don't see why the |
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> rest of us (i.e. non-users of GNOME) should have to follow along and |
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> reconfigure our systems. This is a case of the tail wagging the dog. |
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It will probably be more than a decade before anybody is FORCED to run |
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systemd on Gentoo. You don't even have to run udev on Gentoo. |
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It will probably be years before the default even changes, assuming |
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the trajectory of systemd remains as it seems to be. |
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I think people are really getting carried away here. I believe the |
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udev team generally wants to follow upstream udev, and there is eudev |
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and busybox mdev for those who don't want that. No distro provides so |
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many ways of avoiding systemd. I don't see that changing anytime |
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soon. |
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This thread just started out asking maintainers to commit unit files |
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when asked, that's all. Anybody who doesn't want them can mask them. |
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If anybody feels eudev/openrc/whatever isn't progressing enough they |
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can contribute improvements to these packages, or pay somebody else to |
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do it for them. Developers work on what they want to work on. If no |
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devs can be bothered with systemd then it will die on the vine, and if |
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no developers choose to work on openrc the same will happen there. |
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Either is unlikely, though the "market share" of either is likely to |
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change over time. |
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Rich |
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