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From: Alistair Bush <ali_bush@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:08:45
Message-Id: 49E0EAB9.2080103@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft by Mart Raudsepp
1 Mart Raudsepp wrote:
2 > Enabling tests by default feels like driving users away, because all of
3 > a sudden their upgrades taken even more time (possibly unexplained to
4 > them, as an EAPI bump in an ebuild introducing it is not visible to
5 > them), and they'd just say to hell with it and go to a binary
6 > distribution that runs the tests for maintainers only, as we should.
7 >
8 > Yet we have the _choice_ to take that extra time and double-check on
9 > maintainers if they really did their job right.
10
11 I agree that before EAPI 3 hits the tree we need to do some extensive
12 pr. There should be a howto on the changes and what they mean to users,
13 the benefits and costs etc. How to enable/disable those changes etc etc.
14
15 But in reality all we need is 1 document, links and news items (yes more
16 than 1 preferably) posted on our homepage, forums, mailing lists. Hell
17 even within ebuilds if it comes to that. If after all that a user still
18 hasn't figured out that they need to go read that document are we really
19 in a position where we can do anything else.