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On Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 12:35:58PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: |
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> On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 09:36:56PM +0200, Alexis Ballier wrote: |
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> > On Friday, April 1, 2016 8:33:02 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: |
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> > > On 01 Apr 2016 20:00, Alexis Ballier wrote: |
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> > >> On Friday, April 1, 2016 3:58:18 AM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: |
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> > >>>> ... |
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> > >>> "being supported" != "enabled by default". so no, i still don't see any |
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> > >>> requirement in anything you've cited that this be turned on |
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> > >>> by default. ... |
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> > >> |
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> > >> you're right, but you know, before you claimed the contrary of what was |
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> > >> voted and then decided to argue whether a 4 years old council decision |
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> > >> applies or not here, my point was, and still is, that such council |
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> > >> decisions make me think you're confusing what *you* want and |
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> > >> what *we* (as |
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> > >> a project) want for this case |
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> > > |
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> > > i see no significant number of people clamoring for this as the default. |
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> > > the bug that started this has everyone on board for changing the default. |
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> > |
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> > yes; I also tend to think fedora's usr move is what makes most sense |
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> > nowadays, but that'd go against council |
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> No, it wouldn't. We made a decision in 2013 (I'll have to find it) that |
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> separate /usr should only be supported via initramfs; there is also a |
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> news item warning that if you are not using initramfs and you have |
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> separate /usr your system will be unbootable in the future. |
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Here are the latest council decision on the matter [1] and news item [2]. |
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At this point, if anyone who has split /usr isn't using initramfs, |
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they are operating on borrowed time. |
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I would agree, since it has been so long, that we should do another news |
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item, but once the news item is done and we give a firm date, I think |
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we should just kill off gen_usr_ldscript. |
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The /usr merge is a separate issue, which I agree with as well, but that |
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was never brought to council, and it is controversial in the Gentoo camp |
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because some folks claim fhs doesn't allow it. |
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William |
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[1] |
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https://projects.gentoo.org/council/meeting-logs/20130924-summary.txt |
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[2] |
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https://gitweb.gentoo.org/data/gentoo-news.git/plain/2013-09-27-initramfs-required/2013-09-27-initramfs-required.en.txt |