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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 23:05:22
Message-Id: 20141122000509.161006d2@pomiot.lan
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11 by "Anthony G. Basile"
1 Dnia 2014-11-20, o godz. 08:06:05
2 "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o> napisał(a):
3
4 > On 11/20/14 04:37, Michał Górny wrote:
5 > > Dnia 2014-11-19, o godz. 17:41:53
6 > > Diego Elio Pettenò <flameeyes@×××××××××.eu> napisał(a):
7 > >
8 > >> On 31 October 2014 09:28, Diego Elio Pettenò <flameeyes@×××××××××.eu> wrote:
9 > >>> So who wants to pick up the pieces now? Because I'm almost pissed off
10 > >>> enough to turn down the tinderbox and give a big FU to Gentoo already.
11 > >>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527608
12 > >> More! https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529788
13 > >>
14 > >> Again, is somebody going to stand up and do something or can I shut
15 > >> down my tinderbox and spend my free time playing Baldur's Gate?
16 > > Comrel, please either do something about vapier or reassign all his
17 > > packages (and team positions) to a volunteering proxy developer who will
18 > > handle human relations for him.
19 > >
20 >
21 > Chill dude.
22
23 You should probably know that telling someone angry to 'chill dude'
24 only increases the anger. On the other hand, telling that to someone
25 who's not angry is meaningless. And I'm just frustrated because I have
26 a lot of work on Gentoo.
27
28 The obvious fact is that Gentoo is undermanned. The non-obvious part is
29 that many developers are retiring or decreasing their activity because
30 of the growing frustration. One of the major sources of frustration is
31 Mike's behavior -- lack of respect for Council and other authorities,
32 complete ignorance of rules and good taste, thoughtless committing
33 without proper reviews of warnings, writing poor quality code
34 because 'why do you care'...
35
36 So sure, he's doing a lot, he has skills etc. but in the end, *I* end
37 up having more work on my shoulders because of him. Because developers
38 who could've helped me don't want to work on Gentoo anymore. Because he
39 committed some untested crap and we have to clean up the mess (see
40 libltdl for a late example). Because someone will finally have to clean
41 up after him, and as far as I know, that someone will have to be me
42 because nobody else will do it.
43
44 And yes, I'm waiting for some free time to redo the toolchain.
45
46 --
47 Best regards,
48 Michał Górny

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