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From: Ladislav Laska <ladislav.laska@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New ebuild metadata to mark how robust the package is?
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:55:53
Message-Id: 255f067f0910260555r32f2d1ccxdcf6e182e6c57ea1@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New ebuild metadata to mark how robust the package is? by William Hubbs
This is awesome! It really like the idea, but (there is always "but",
right?) it doesn't work.

I have googled for it for a while and haven't found any reference how
to do it exactly.

I have created mentioned file and run emerge, but I've got

$ sudo emerge -av @critical
!!! '@critical' is not a valid package atom.
!!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details

And I have no idea why. Also, I'm using portage 2.1.7.1. I guess this
is new feature in 2.2?

Regards Ladislav Laska
S pozdravem Ladislav Laska
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xmpp/jabber: ladislav.laska@××××××.cz



On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:30 PM, William Hubbs <williamh@g.o> wrote:
> Afaik, you can already do this. > > Make a file in /etc/portage/sets/critical, or whatever you want to call > it, and in there list the packages you are concerned about. > > Then you can do: > > emerge -NDup @critical > > to see the packages in that set that need to be upgraded or you can use > @critical in any other place you could use a set. > > William > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 03:21:34PM +0000, Ladislav Laska wrote: >> Of course, by "safe" I meant "unsafe" or "needs-additional-care" or >> whatever,... My bad. >> >> Regards Ladislav Laska >> S pozdravem Ladislav Laska >> --- >> xmpp/jabber: ladislav.laska@××××××.cz >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Ladislav Laska >> <ladislav.laska@×××××.com> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > One can see some similarity to a thread around week or two old (about >> > critical packages). I would imagine, that a simple and straightforward >> > solution would be to make a new set of packages. Since we already have >> > world and system sets, it wouldn't hurt to have a third, "safe" list >> > which would be configurable by user. What I mean is: >> > >> > I consider ssh, postfix two very important packages (ssh is pretty >> > stable, but hey, what if...) and I would most certainly not want to >> > trigger emerge world and not notice postfix. So: I would add ssh and >> > postfix to the "safe" set and do emerge -avu @safe, have a coffee and >> > looked whether it's ok (mail are flowing, can login, etc. etc.) and >> > then do emerge -avuD world and sleep well. >> > >> > I think this would be good solution for all of you? >> > >> > >> > Regards Ladislav Laska >> > S pozdravem Ladislav Laska >> > --- >> > xmpp/jabber: ladislav.laska@××××××.cz >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote: >> >> Patrick Lauer posted on Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:53:39 +0200 as excerpted: >> >> >> >>> On Saturday 17 October 2009 01:29:00 Daniel Bradshaw wrote: >> >>>> Some packages, like findutils, are pretty robust and generally just get >> >>>> on with working. >> >>>> Other packages, like apache and ssh, need are more fragile and need >> >>>> plenty of configuration. >> >>> That's almost completely user-side configuration outside the influence >> >>> of portage. emerge findutils and emerge apache "works" the same ... >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Packages from the second group want emerging on their own, or in small >> >>>> groups, the better to keep an eye out for notices about things that >> >>>> might break, to update configs, and to check that they're running >> >>>> happily. >> >>> That's a very individual thing :) >> >>> Sometimes apache is a critical service, sometimes apache is just there >> >>> as a fallback if/when the lighttpd+php+... stack breaks. >> >> >> >> FWIW, there's a portage helper package, IDR the name as I have my own >> >> system for this but it looks like it might be helpful here, that allows >> >> users to pick and choose their updates. ??One could run it multiple times, >> >> updating (what the user considers) the critical stuff on its own, and >> >> updating everything else in a big bunch. >> >> >> >> That seems like the answer here; it already exists; and it's in the tree >> >> (unless it has been removed recently, I don't know as IDR the name). >> >> Take a look thru app-portage and see what you find. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Duncan - List replies preferred. ?? No HTML msgs. >> >> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- >> >> and if you use the program, he is your master." ??Richard Stallman >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > -- > William Hubbs > gentoo accessibility team lead > williamh@g.o >

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