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From: "Derek J. Belrose" <derek@...>
Subject: Re: GUI installer
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 05:47:58 -0400
I'm all for doing it this way if everyone agrees.  I think it would be a 
decent start, definitely. 

I'm gonna head to sleep...it's almost 6am here.  But, I want to carry on 
a discussion with you about the cli portage viewer/manager.  I have been 
thinking about this one a lot, and want to hear other people's ideas on 
it. 

I'm wondering if this will increase the threads on gentoo-dev enough to 
warrant something like an IRC channel to do more of a realtime chat thing.

I'm pretty easy right now as i'm unemployed :)  If anyone wants to offer 
suggestions on how to take this step by step, it would be pretty cool.  
Project management isn't my forte. 

I like python...so I, myself would suggest a decent python/ncurses 
layout for the cli viewer/manager.  I'll start documenting my thoughts 
on this when the sun rises :) 

Alright,
nite...

Brian Harring wrote:

>While I think an X based installer would be nice, I think we might benefit 
>from first doing up a cli based installer first... at the very least, we 
>would need a cli portage viewer/manager, which would be a nice package on 
>it's own...
>
>Something also I thought about (and have been playing with), is having 
>essentially a two stage process for the installer- basically everything prior 
>to the chroot, and then everything after.  Why?  Well, it would be nice to 
>have the first half of the installer handle all the fdisking, untarring, etc.  
>From there, it chroots, emerge syncs and emerge portages, then pulls down the 
>newest version of itself, and runs that.
>
>From there, if we wanted we could probably setup some simple equivalent of a 
>quicky binary x server/svgalib for a x based installer.  Meanwhile, if we 
>have at least a basic cli installer setup, that would be immediately useful 
>for the cd's, and w/ an update capability, we could push a graphical 
>installer down to the user once we have it ready...
>Thoughts?
>~harring
>bdharring@...
>
>On Sunday 13 April 2003 04:30 am, Derek J. Belrose wrote:
>  
>
>>The only real way I can think of is to do some checks on if X is
>>running, and if it is, use a graphical toolkit for X...if not, use a
>>terminal based kit like ncurses.
>>
>>I like this idea.  I should download a liveCD to throw some code on and
>>do tests.
>>
>>Is anyone against pyGTK or something like it?  pyQT?  wxPython?
>>
>>Is anyone against python? :)
>>
>>Cedric Veilleux wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Why not simply use gentoo's livecd?
>>>
>>>The livecd can boot the user into a fully loaded console or X workstation,
>>>with all the tools needed.
>>>
>>>The installer could be an additional tool on the liveCD system.. Anybody
>>>knows a GUI abstration toolkit that can generate either terminal based or
>>>X based interface, depending on what's available at runtime?
>>>
>>>This way the same installer could be used if X is not working or can't be
>>>used.
>>>
>>>In both environment (terminal / X), multitasking would be possible so
>>>experienced users could perform manual tasks while the installer is
>>>waiting for input..
>>>
>>>
>>>Just my 2 cents,
>>>
>>>Cedric
>>>      
>>>
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