I'm all for doing it this way if everyone agrees. I think it would be a
decent start, definitely.
I'm gonna head to sleep...it's almost 6am here. But, I want to carry on
a discussion with you about the cli portage viewer/manager. I have been
thinking about this one a lot, and want to hear other people's ideas on
I'm wondering if this will increase the threads on gentoo-dev enough to
warrant something like an IRC channel to do more of a realtime chat thing.
I'm pretty easy right now as i'm unemployed :) If anyone wants to offer
suggestions on how to take this step by step, it would be pretty cool.
Project management isn't my forte.
I like python...so I, myself would suggest a decent python/ncurses
layout for the cli viewer/manager. I'll start documenting my thoughts
on this when the sun rises :)
Brian Harring wrote:
>While I think an X based installer would be nice, I think we might benefit
>from first doing up a cli based installer first... at the very least, we
>would need a cli portage viewer/manager, which would be a nice package on
>Something also I thought about (and have been playing with), is having
>essentially a two stage process for the installer- basically everything prior
>to the chroot, and then everything after. Why? Well, it would be nice to
>have the first half of the installer handle all the fdisking, untarring, etc.
>From there, it chroots, emerge syncs and emerge portages, then pulls down the
>newest version of itself, and runs that.
>From there, if we wanted we could probably setup some simple equivalent of a
>quicky binary x server/svgalib for a x based installer. Meanwhile, if we
>have at least a basic cli installer setup, that would be immediately useful
>for the cd's, and w/ an update capability, we could push a graphical
>installer down to the user once we have it ready...
>On Sunday 13 April 2003 04:30 am, Derek J. Belrose wrote:
>>The only real way I can think of is to do some checks on if X is
>>running, and if it is, use a graphical toolkit for X...if not, use a
>>terminal based kit like ncurses.
>>I like this idea. I should download a liveCD to throw some code on and
>>Is anyone against pyGTK or something like it? pyQT? wxPython?
>>Is anyone against python? :)
>>Cedric Veilleux wrote:
>>>Why not simply use gentoo's livecd?
>>>The livecd can boot the user into a fully loaded console or X workstation,
>>>with all the tools needed.
>>>The installer could be an additional tool on the liveCD system.. Anybody
>>>knows a GUI abstration toolkit that can generate either terminal based or
>>>X based interface, depending on what's available at runtime?
>>>This way the same installer could be used if X is not working or can't be
>>>In both environment (terminal / X), multitasking would be possible so
>>>experienced users could perform manual tasks while the installer is
>>>waiting for input..
>>>Just my 2 cents,
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