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From: Sebastian Pipping <sping@g.o>
Subject: Re: Tone in Gentoo
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:37:58 +0200
Jorge,


On 06/19/10 05:20, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> you're confusing talk and jokes between developers on a particular
> private room with tone between members of the global community in public
> mediums.

It wasn't #gentoo-roughshit, it was in #gentoo-infra - the place devs go
on infra matters.  To the outside of Gentoo it may be a private channel,
to Gentoo itself it is not (or should not be) a private channel.  I can
expect proper tone from an infra related channel just like from #gentoo-doc.


> You're also missing an important point that some channels have their own
> environment and so one should start by understanding it. Furthermore,
> pushing for change and or imposing one's view on an established channel
> is not a "nice" way to deal with the residents of that channel.
> Another thing you've just done and should be aware of, is that you chose
> to air into the public private conservations. When any Gentoo developer
> decides to reveal a private discussion in the core ml or some other
> private medium into the general public without the other parties
> knowledge and or consent, that developer is abusing the other members'
> "trust".

If #gentoo-infra bangs their moms the rest of the community deserves to
know.  I didn't mention names or anything implying specific participants
to the outside.


> You have shown to be very attached to this topic, so much so that you've
> just blown this completely out of proportion. There was no "foul play"
> intended in that conservation

I was more or less told to fuck off if I don't like the tone.
This is where I left the channel.

How will I be able to tell women on LinuxTag 2010 that we do want women
in Gentoo with such tone in #gentoo-infra?

Best,



Sebastian


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