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From: Sebastian Pipping <sping@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:38:33
Message-Id: 4C1CD646.2070703@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo by "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto"
1 Jorge,
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4 On 06/19/10 05:20, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
5 > you're confusing talk and jokes between developers on a particular
6 > private room with tone between members of the global community in public
7 > mediums.
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9 It wasn't #gentoo-roughshit, it was in #gentoo-infra - the place devs go
10 on infra matters. To the outside of Gentoo it may be a private channel,
11 to Gentoo itself it is not (or should not be) a private channel. I can
12 expect proper tone from an infra related channel just like from #gentoo-doc.
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15 > You're also missing an important point that some channels have their own
16 > environment and so one should start by understanding it. Furthermore,
17 > pushing for change and or imposing one's view on an established channel
18 > is not a "nice" way to deal with the residents of that channel.
19 > Another thing you've just done and should be aware of, is that you chose
20 > to air into the public private conservations. When any Gentoo developer
21 > decides to reveal a private discussion in the core ml or some other
22 > private medium into the general public without the other parties
23 > knowledge and or consent, that developer is abusing the other members'
24 > "trust".
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26 If #gentoo-infra bangs their moms the rest of the community deserves to
27 know. I didn't mention names or anything implying specific participants
28 to the outside.
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31 > You have shown to be very attached to this topic, so much so that you've
32 > just blown this completely out of proportion. There was no "foul play"
33 > intended in that conservation
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35 I was more or less told to fuck off if I don't like the tone.
36 This is where I left the channel.
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38 How will I be able to tell women on LinuxTag 2010 that we do want women
39 in Gentoo with such tone in #gentoo-infra?
40
41 Best,
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45 Sebastian

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo Denis Dupeyron <calchan@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo "Wulf C. Krueger" <wk@×××××××××××.de>