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From: Nirbheek Chauhan <nirbheek@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:49:10
Message-Id: CADqQcK6nS2oXgcb2jj5sO=bJ=t5hyNB_wnd3ONba2mGVY+=xbQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr by Rich Freeman
1 On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
2 > part of).  For example, if eventually you can't run gnome without
3 > systemd where does that leave bsd gentoo users?
4
5 Is Mesa support on BSD really all that up-to-date these days? I don't
6 expect that they keep up with bugfixes that well. For instance, Radeon
7 works best with KMS + Gallium and afaik that has no driver for BSD at
8 all. I don't think GNOME Shell is stable on BSD at all.
9
10 > Gentoo is about
11 > choice, and various upstream efforts are moving in the direction of
12 > giving users only one choice - take it or leave it.
13
14 If you're arguing purely on the basis of BSD, I think it's a lost
15 cause. They're so far behind Linux that it's not even funny anymore.
16
17 > How do you
18 > install KDE and Gnome on the same system when they eventually want
19 > different sysvinit implementations.
20
21 I doubt that's going to happen, though. No DE other than GNOME is
22 interested in vertical integration. Even if someone is, it's a
23 technical problem to be solved with a technical solution. "Every
24 problem in computer science can be solved by adding another layer of
25 indirection".
26
27 > Will the RedHat and Ubuntu of the
28 > future have no more in common than Tivo and Android do today?
29 >
30
31 Setting aside the silly parts of comparison you've made, the rest is
32 already true from the user's PoV. The two have drastically different
33 UIs, and their packages are incompatible (rpm vs deb, yum vs apt). If
34 some applications are indeed common between the two, it's no surprise
35 since most of those run on Windows too.
36
37 --
38 ~Nirbheek Chauhan
39
40 Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team