Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-libs/libva: ChangeLog libva-1.0.10.ebuild

[Tomáš Chvátal]

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Dne 9.3.2011 13:08, Alexis Ballier napsal(a):
> On Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:23:03 PM Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
>> Dne 8.3.2011 15:51, Alexis Ballier napsal(a):
>>> On Tuesday, March 08, 2011 09:28:13 AM Tomas Chvatal (scarabeus) wrote:
>>>> scarabeus    11/03/08 12:28:13
>>>>
>>>>   Modified:             ChangeLog
>>>>   Added:                libva-1.0.10.ebuild
>>>>   Log:
>>>>   Update to libva shipped by freedesktop. So we do the same as debian or
>>>>
>>>> archlinux. Fixes bug #336854.
>>>
>>> Please read metadata.xml before committing...
>>
>> I did, x11 is the herd last time i looked.
>
> x11 is the herd because when I added it I thought that it was low level enough
> that x11 may help from time to time. This never gave the right to anyone to
> break and hijack it without discussion nor notice like you did.
> Since it seems to be more a burden than a help, I'll remove x11 herd from
> metadata too when removing the fdo version.
>
> Maybe something you didn't understand: herd/maintainership isn't about
> territoriality and giving the right to commit crap, it's about area of
> responsability.
>
>>
>>> How comes I'm supposed to be the maintainer and have not seen any single
>>> discussion about it ? Why is it better, etc ? Being a "mouton de Panurge"
>>> is not a reason [1] :)
>>> The only "better" thing I see is a greater version number. May I suggest
>>> you to run a diff and explain me why such a change was needed ?
>>
>> ok lovely list:
>> 1) it has freedesktop web page, and we should preffer fdo alternatives
>> anyway
>
> yes, didnt you think that maybe there's a reason I've been using the sds
> version for almost one year ?
You never named them anywhere.
>
>> 2) it has existing git repo (could not find repo for the va you use)
>
> you clearly didnt run a diff... its the fdo version + a debian/patches dir
> with, heh, some fixes and improvements I'm using...
I did run a diff, what am I supposed to trust some weird patches not
signed or commited to some repo...
>
>> 3) debian/archlinux/fedora use this one I commited, not former one.
>
> so what?
We have this tendency to use what others do so...
>
>> 4) the bug was reported to you with x11 CC and you had 6 months already
>> to at least reply to it why/if you don't agree with the switch.
>> Suprisingly we try to close long-open bugs with no-maintainer reply.
>
> There was no reply because I didn't see the point, for now, to flame users by
> telling them that a version number doesnt necessarily bring them more code nor
> features. I thought gentoo developers were aware of that. I was wrong.
> I left it open because I thought, at some point, that we will not need the sds
> version. I don't think it's the case now.
So first you say you was not aware of the discussion, now you say you
just didn't feel the need to reply.
I did see that you commited copied version of older one, given the fancy
amount of people just doing cp a b for version bumps and not bothering
by any bugs I just went ahead and looked what other guys does and made
it same. I would commit the update even if it would be libva-0.0.1 I
didn't do it for sake of the version.
>
> Seeing that I bumped it ~1 week ago, did you really expect that it was an
> abandonned package and that you were saving it ? Were you trying to hijack it?
> Or maybe just piss me off ?
>

Just consider I tried to piss you off if you have this attitude. I could
not care less about some libva if i would not be looking on that bug for
some time without any damn reply from maintainer and x11 in CC.

I usually ask on irc, but given the fact you don't bother with the
media... just remove x11 from herds and enjoy your package.

You might also consider dropping x11 from x11-libs/vdpau-video

Cheerios
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