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From: Angelo Arrifano <miknix@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 04:36:23
Message-Id: 4C1C491A.5030906@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo by "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto"
1 On 19-06-2010 05:20, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
2 > On 19-06-2010 02:25, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
3 >> Hello.
4 >
5 >> As some people seem to be interested in examples of out of the line tone
6 >> in Gentoo I feel like sharing an example just happened a few minutes ago:
7 >
8 >> In #gentoo-infra people are talking about banging each others moms
9 >> right now. I was told this is normal in there. As I mentioned it's
10 >> not funny at all I was told that it's not funny to _me_ and that I
11 >> don't have to hang around there if I don't like it.
12 >
13 >> Now that's tone in Gentoo. Brilliant.
14 >
15 > Sebastian,
16 >
17 > you're confusing talk and jokes between developers on a particular
18 > private room with tone between members of the global community in public
19 > mediums.
20
21 I corroborate Jorge, I usually (or used to when there was time) hang
22 there and #gentoo-infra is like a big family. While I agree there is
23 sometimes a certain tone in gentoo, #gentoo-infra is for sure *not* an
24 example.
25
26 - Angelo
27
28 > You're also missing an important point that some channels have their own
29 > environment and so one should start by understanding it. Furthermore,
30 > pushing for change and or imposing one's view on an established channel
31 > is not a "nice" way to deal with the residents of that channel.
32 > Another thing you've just done and should be aware of, is that you chose
33 > to air into the public private conservations. When any Gentoo developer
34 > decides to reveal a private discussion in the core ml or some other
35 > private medium into the general public without the other parties
36 > knowledge and or consent, that developer is abusing the other members'
37 > "trust".
38 >
39 > You have shown to be very attached to this topic, so much so that you've
40 > just blown this completely out of proportion. There was no "foul play"
41 > intended in that conservation nor was there any abusive tone between the
42 > involved parties. It may have sounded that way to you, but there was no
43 > doubt for the involved parties.
44 > Please consider that some of the developers in this distribution have
45 > known each other for years and have their own communication code and
46 > style. Don't be too quick judging the other people and as others have
47 > said in this thread, assume others to have the best possible intention
48 > in their messages, until proven otherwise.
49 >
50 >> Good night.
51 >
52 > Good night.
53 >
54 >> Sebastian
55 >
56 >