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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:26:51 +0000 (UTC) |
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Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote: |
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> > Words |
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> > like "production", "critical" and "important" can be applied as |
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> > easily to the state of a company's or nation's system as to a |
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> > single person's. |
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> Yes, but it's a relative thing. |
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>huge snip< |
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That's what I said, only in many more words and with a confusing "Yes, |
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but" at the start, as if you were complementing or correcting what I |
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said. |
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> IOW, I'd have agreed if the point was that it's a machine that's |
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> useful to the user and that he doesn't want broken, and we should |
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> behave accordingly, but the triple emphasis of important, production, |
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> critical, seemed a bit undue for the lengths to which an ordinary |
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> user goes or the priority he reveals by his own actions. And if his |
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> actions reveal a SERIOUS priority in the area, than he's already |
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> covered by definition. That's all I was saying. |
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Um, you didn't say all of that. In fact you said none of that. You said: |
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> If it's a "production, critical, important" system, then what is one |
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> doing installing updates on it directly without verifying them on a |
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> generally identical test system first? |
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Users with only one Gentoo system to work with rely on ebuild |
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maintainers and arch teams to run the "generally identical test |
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systems" on their behalf (and respectively request and establish what |
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the stable branch is). |
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yoswink said this: |
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> Are you going to install in your stable (production, critial, |
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> important,...) system a combination of packages not tested before? |
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He takes "stable" to mean one of three things, or maybe even something |
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completely different ("...") that some user out there might take to mean |
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"stable"[1]. Then you rip some of the punctuation out and put these |
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words in his mouth: |
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> If it's a "production, critical, important" system, |
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going on to talk about the discrepancy between best practices in |
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*corporate* software deployment and ignoring Gentoo's stable branch. |
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You did it again in the "IOW" quotation above explaining it as a "triple |
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emphasis" instead of what it was intended to denote, namely as a few |
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possible examples of the meaning of "stability". |
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Kind regards, |
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jer |
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[1] To which I responded by pointing to Gentoo's philosophical blurb. |
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