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From: Joost Roeleveld <joost@...>
Subject: Re: Suggestion for getting rid of udev
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:59:02 +0200
On Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:33:51 PM Zac Medico wrote:
> On 10/16/2011 06:07 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o> wrote:
> >> I don't think it's a good idea for Gentoo to encourage users to have
> >> /usr on a separate partition. We should probably remove the separate
> >> /usr partition from "Code Listing 2.1: Filesystem usage example" in
> >> our
> >> handbook:
> >> 
> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=4#d
> >> oc_chap2_pre1> 
> > Well, if we want to do that then we should also update:
> > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86+raid+lvm2-quickinstall.xml
> > 
> > Of course - that is an initramfs-less configuration, and such a thing
> > would be nearly impossible to do with /usr on root unless you
> > basically don't put anything of value on the LVM volumes in the first
> > place.  You could put everything but /boot on LVM and then use an
> > initramfs.  Or, you need to cover mounting /usr, /var, etc from the
> > initramfs.
> > 
> > And I don't think it is a good idea to NOT have a supported RAID/LVM
> > configuration.  That is hardly an edge case...
> 
> If those LVM volumes require userspace tools to mount, then I think it's
> perfectly reasonable to expect them to use either an initramfs or a
> simple linuxrc approach [1] to ensure that /usr is mounted before init
> starts.
> 
> [1]
> http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_20749880f5bc5feda141488498729fe8.x
> ml

If this approach works, would it be an option to add this to the LVM [1] and 
RAID+LVM [2] pages?

[1]
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/lvm2.xml

[2]
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86+raid+lvm2-quickinstall.xml

--
Joost


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