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From: Zeerak Mustafa Waseem <zeerak.w@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 18:21:11
Message-Id: 20100404201903.GA2156@Caemlyn.Fullrate
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix? by Richard Freeman
1 esOn Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 07:33:53AM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote:
2 > On 04/03/2010 06:19 AM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
3 >
4 > I really think that the Gentoo recruitment process needs improvement.
5 > Right now it seems like a LOT of effort is required both to become a
6 > Gentoo dev and to help somebody become a Gentoo dev. That means we have
7 > great people, but not many of them.
8 >
9 > I think the problem is that our recruitment process uses the ability to
10 > answer complex technical and organizational questions as a way to assess
11 > maturity. I think that maturity is far more important than technical
12 > skill in a distro - a mature person will recognize their own limitations
13 > and exercise due diligence when stepping outside of them. Instead of
14 > playing 20 questions and going back and forth with recruits, maybe a
15 > better approach would be to cut down the questions dramatically (or more
16 > clearly put their answers in the documentation), and then use other
17 > approaches like references and interviews. A new recruit might be given
18 > the names of 5 devs that they will need to interview with for 30-60
19 > minutes by phone or IRC (preference on phone), and they will need to
20 > submit references, who will be contacted. When we hire people at work
21 > we don't play trivial pursuit with them, we use an interview to get a
22 > feel for what they're like and how they handle situations, and we screen
23 > resumes and references to determine experience. I'm sure any of the
24 > professional linux distros would work in the same way, but perhaps
25 > somebody should ask around and see how it is done elsewhere.
26 >
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28 I'm not exactly sure how you'd want the references to work, I mean, as in prior jobs/projects worked on?
29 I know that I'd like to help out with development, but as it stands I don't think I have the necessary skills (various programming language etc), so that is something I'm working on.
30 As a consequence I naturally don't have any references (and might not by the time I feel ready) but that wouldn't necessarily mean that I'm not qualified to be working as a dev. Also one could imagine that a number of other people without references, but the necessary qualifications might think "To hell with this, I'll just put my effots somewhere else".
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32 Another thing, you write that phone is preferred but I know that I act relaxed in text with new people and as myself. Whereas on the phone I hold back a bit, and don't really act myself. So perhaps the preference should be the manner in which the one being interviewed is more comfortable with and will act more naturally.
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34 Anyway these are just my 2 cents.
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36 --
37 Zeerak Waseem

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