Gentoo Logo
Gentoo Spaceship




Note: Due to technical difficulties, the Archives are currently not up to date. GMANE provides an alternative service for most mailing lists.
c.f. bug 424647
List Archive: gentoo-dev
Navigation:
Lists: gentoo-dev: < Prev By Thread Next > < Prev By Date Next >
Headers:
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
Subject: Re: RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:16:42 -0700
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Ciaran McCreesh
<ciaran.mccreesh@...> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 18:13:23 +0200
> Justin <jlec@g.o> wrote:
>> Did you read what you wrote and thought about what you request from
>> others? Probably you better should.
>
> Uh huh, and I think we all know there's a huge difference between
> knowing what versions and slots are and knowing what "a multilib" is.
>
>> An example:
>>
>> "...slots and versions to "mean" something other than what they used
>> to,..."
>>
>> is completely useless without a description of what SLOTS are about
>> and how the should be used. And what is the wrong usage you can find;
>> examples are necessary here for understanding.
>
> That's covered in the devmanual and in the user documentation, so
> there's no need to repeat it here.

http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/slotting/index.html
http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/dependencies/index.html#slot-dependencies

I don't think the documentation forbids what these developers are
doing. I think you implemented a nice heuristic for your users in your
resolver that used to work because slots had a typical set of users
cases and the heuristic performed well in those cases.

Now people are occasionally using slots in a different way and your
heuristic penalizes those cases. That sucks, but you might have to
actually change your resolver because I don't think 'funky-slots'
properties is going to garner much adoption. It just appears that the
heuristic you used to use isn't helpful anymore (or has too any false
positives, or whatever.)

-A

>
>> To me, it doesn't solve the root cause, but actually I can't judge
>> this, because I am missing a description of what is really going
>> wrong.
>
> As I've already said, this isn't about solving the root cause. It's
> about reducing the impact of damage that's already been done until the
> root cause is solved properly.
>
> --
> Ciaran McCreesh


Replies:
Re: RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots
-- Kent Fredric
Re: RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots
-- Ciaran McCreesh
References:
RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots
-- Ciaran McCreesh
Re: RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots
-- Ciaran McCreesh
Navigation:
Lists: gentoo-dev: < Prev By Thread Next > < Prev By Date Next >
Previous by thread:
Re: RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots
Next by thread:
Re: RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots
Previous by date:
Re: RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots
Next by date:
Re: RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots


Updated Jun 29, 2012

Summary: Archive of the gentoo-dev mailing list.

Donate to support our development efforts.

Copyright 2001-2013 Gentoo Foundation, Inc. Questions, Comments? Contact us.