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From: Ben de Groot <yngwin@g.o>
Subject: Re: Tone in Gentoo
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:03:31 +0200
On 19 June 2010 19:59, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@...> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:54:25 +0200
> Ben de Groot <yngwin@g.o> wrote:
>> This is a point that deserves more consideration. One of the top
>> reasons (as witnessed in forum discussions)
> Unfortunately, that's selecting a rather biased audience. The success
> of a forum depends upon the number of active posters it has. The number
> of active posters it has depends upon how many people need to post
> there to get answers to questions, and how many wrong answers have to
> be given before the right answer comes up. Thus, by selecting from the
> forums, you're picking an audience that likes talking endlessly about
> communities, not one that likes to answer a question once, correctly,
> and then change things so the question doesn't need to be answered
> again.

That is an incredibly shortsighted and cynic look at the community.
Keep it off this list.

>> Does Gentoo really prefer to keep more sensitive people out instead
>> of effectively getting rid of repeat offenders?
> All bringing more sensitive people in does is cripples the
> distribution's ability to delivery any technical improvements, since
> everyone's time is wasted worrying about the whiners

Not at all. Instead of wasting time on flamewars, and people getting
upset and leaving because of the attacks, we'd have a bunch of people
who would know how to work together in a friendly way. That speeds up
the process to come to technical improvements. Once again: keep your
cynic, twisted look off this list. We have no use for it.

>> Think about it. What kind of people would you rather have in Gentoo?
> Personally, I'd like to see Gentoo start having the kinds of people who
> deliver a better product, not the kinds of people who worry that using
> a gender-ambiguous cow as a logo might be offensive.

Once again you are derailing the conversation. Nobody brought up
anything about a logo.

It is about whether Gentoo wants to keep around people like you, who
continually attack others, or whether it prefers to have people who
want to work together in a friendlier atmosphere. A smoother
cooperation is in the interest of technical improvements too.

There already is a distro that works like you envision it. It's called
Exherbo. You should try it, you might like it. I would suggest you
spend your time and energy on that, and leave Gentoo to do things the
friendlier way.


Re: Tone in Gentoo
-- David Leverton
Re: Tone in Gentoo
-- Ciaran McCreesh
Tone in Gentoo
-- Sebastian Pipping
Re: Tone in Gentoo
-- Sebastian Pipping
Re: Tone in Gentoo
-- Patrick Lauer
Re: Tone in Gentoo
-- PaweĊ‚ Hajdan, Jr.
Re: Tone in Gentoo
-- Ben de Groot
Re: Tone in Gentoo
-- Ciaran McCreesh
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