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From: Bart Lauwers <blauwers@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Programming advice wanted?
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:14:31
Message-Id: 200403261814.21051.blauwers@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Programming advice wanted? by Marc Giger
1 On Monday 22 March 2004 22:49, Marc Giger wrote:
2 > On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:36:01 +0100
3 >
4 > Patrick Lauer <gentoo@×××××××××××××.de> wrote:
5 > > Offlist to keep the noise down.
6 > >
7 > > On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 21:17, Marc Giger wrote:
8 > > > I really don't understand what people have against Java?!? Is it
9 > > > because of Sun and its license?
10 > >
11 > > Not only that, there are different not fully compatible JVM's around.
12 >
13 > Hehe, that's the reason why Sun is so conservative with the license.
14 > They tried to avoid the incompatibilites.
15
16 I'd like to point out that Sun has this opinion because they are clueless.
17 Java has failed to deliver on it's promise in no small account because there
18 is no assurance that Sun won't use it's monopoly to fend off competitors. In
19 fact if there is one thing we do know it's that Sun purposely has made java
20 run bad on Linux and Windows to benefit their own platform in the past. We
21 all have been warned by McNealy for companies like MS who can suddenly kill a
22 platform by dropping support for it. Sun is trying to be an MS albeit I'd
23 rather trust Bill then Scott if it came down to it. At least MS doesn't
24 pretend to do it for the masses.
25
26 When McNealy is done running Sun into the ground maybe they will realize that
27 open sourcing the java vm is the only way they can get it accepted because it
28 is surely the only way it can fullfill it's promise of working on any OS,
29 regardless of where Sun heads. Originally java was about choice, now it's
30 about control. Customers are tired of control but Sun isn't catching on.
31
32 Me.
33
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