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On 06/17/10 22:09, Sebastian Pipping wrote: |
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> Patrick, |
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> On 06/17/10 18:21, Patrick Lauer wrote: |
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>> Now of course this will cause friction. I've noticed it especially with |
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>> germanic and slavic languages that are more terse than english. |
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>> For example "Sit down!" is acceptable in all situations in german, |
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> maybe acceptable, sure not polite or friendly. |
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"Hey, komm, setz dich." |
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"Ey, du Arsch, setz dich, sonst schmeiss ich dich raus!" |
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exactly the same words, just defined by the context - and if you leave |
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that away it's only intonation. |
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The english or french equivalent ends up as different sentences ... |
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>> You can extrapolate the friction this can and will cause. So unless |
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>> someone actively personally insults me I'll just assume it got lost in |
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>> translation. |
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> I understand "extrapolating friction" as having the receiver fixing |
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> potential miscommunication. Is that what you meant? |
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I meant to say "you can easily guess how much trouble that causes" |
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And here we see how difficult languages can be as you managed to get |
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something quite different out of it ... |
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>> So let's not get too hung up on single words, stop |
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>> floodmailing and resume fixing bugs, mmmhkay? |
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> Are you asking me to shut up? |
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> In case floodmailing refers to me: I'm not done yet. |
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You're one of the more persistent persons on the mailing lists. |
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I don't see the point of arguing the same thing for days with no end in |
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sight ... for me, personally, there are better ways to use my time. For |
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example reading the quizzes my recruits are working on and pointing out |
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the problems they still have. Or bugwrangling a bit just for fun. |
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> We have more or less ignored non-technical issues for quite some time |
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> concentrating on technical issues as that's easier. The thing is: |
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> Technical things work much better in Gentoo than non-technical things. |
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> Let me repeat: Technical is not our main problem. |
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Ok then. What's the possible solutions? Which options do we have, what |
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are their advantages and disadvantages? Why didn't we apply that |
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solution before? |
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Just complaining that things suck and life isn't fair won't help. |
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Finding a goal and working towards it until you are done will. |
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Have fun, |
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Patrick |