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From: Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:05:38
Message-Id: 4E0AEBA4.2090400@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems? by "Olivier Crête"
1 On 06/29/11 03:07, Olivier Crête wrote:
2 > Hi,
3 >
4 > On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 17:10 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
5 >> The background is that /etc/init.d/functions.sh is a link to
6 >> /lib/rc/functions.sh, which is part of openrc.
7 >>
8 >> Other init systems, like systemd, are coming along which completely
9 >> replace sysvinit and do not use openrc's init scripts at all. However,
10 >> since things other than init scripts are using /etc/init.d/functions.sh,
11 >> all gentoo users are forced to have openrc on their systems whether they
12 >> use its init scripts or not.
13 >>
14 >> As you can see in the bug, I am working on creating a
15 >> minimalist version of openrc that can be installed to allow users to
16 >> have access to the functions that are in functions.sh regardless of
17 >> whether or not they are using openrc's init system.
18 >>
19 >> I'm not convinced that this is the best approach, so any input would be
20 >> greatly appreciated.
21 >
22 > As long as we have Gentoo-style init scripts in the tree, we will need
23 > these functions to be available. So yes, they should probably be in a
24 > separate package from openrc itself to ease the transition to the bright
25 > systemd future.
26 >
27 We tolerate the systemd madness as long as it doesn't interfere with
28 other things.
29
30 But as OpenRC has some rare features ("being able to start and stop
31 stuff" and "being reasonably fast" among them) and there's no
32 replacement at the moment I see no reason to add a convoluted mess of
33 insanity just to feel good.
34
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36 Patrick Lauer http://service.gentooexperimental.org
37
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