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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code
Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 02:12:54
Message-Id: 4FA48C6E.5090901@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code by Greg KH
1 Greg KH wrote:
2 > On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 11:02:01AM -0700, Luca Barbato wrote:
3 >> On 03/05/12 18:22, Mike Frysinger wrote:
4 >>>> (As soon I have some time I might dabble with a dbus integration for mdev)
5 >>>
6 >>> we would have to make mdev available as a sep package then ... don't want
7 >>> busybox itself linking against anything beyond the C library.
8 >>
9 >> The integration would be mdev -> shell -> dbus or mdev -> socket ->
10 >> dbus. I consider dbus still not reliable for core services.
11 >
12 > When was the last time dbus crashed on you?
13 >
14 > And what would you consider "reliable" enough for "core services"? dbus
15 > has proven itself over _many_ years to handle all of the issues that
16 > something like this requires very well. It's a non-trivial thing to
17 > implement and the authors of it have done a very good job, after
18 > learning how to do it from other failed attempts at the same thing.
19 >
20 > And what are you going to do when dbus moves into the kernel itself
21 > (hint, it will be there soon)? How are you going to not use it then?
22 >
23 > greg k-h
24 >
25 >
26
27
28 This question is not directed at me but I'll give a response to my
29 experience a few months ago. I woke up to my system fans blowing like
30 crazy. Trust me, if you can hear noise on a HAF-932, they are spinning
31 pretty good. It was mostly air I was hearing but anyway. I use KDE and
32 have Konsole open at all times. I switched to the desktop with it,
33 after noticing on Gkrellm that my CPU was maxed out and that almost all
34 my ram was in use and some swap too. I don't mean cached or anything
35 either, I mean actively in use.
36
37 At any rate, when it finally switched to the desktop with Konsole on it,
38 which took a bit, I ran top. At the top for both CPU and memory usage
39 was dbus. I tried to restart the dbus service, thinking it would kill
40 it and restart without all the ram and CPU usage. I could then logout
41 and back in, maybe. I never got my prompt back and it never showed dbus
42 as stopped either.
43
44 I then switched to a console. I did a 'rc boot' and it was slowly
45 switching to it and did but it couldn't stop the dbus service. I just
46 typed in reboot and let it restart from scratch.
47
48 Was it dbus itself, I dunno for sure. I am sure it was dbus that was
49 maxing out my CPU and ram. I did recompile dbus after the reboot and it
50 has not done it since. If I could reproduce it or had more info, I
51 would have mentioned it when it happened. I'm thinking rays from Mars
52 or something. ;-) It wasn't hardware either. This system has been
53 running fine ever since.
54
55 By the way, I have 16Gbs of ram. If I recall correctly, dbus was using
56 over 14Gbs of ram and something was using swap. Keep in mind, I had KDE
57 running with Seamonkey, Konsole, Konqueror and a couple other apps open.
58 I use about 1.5Gbs when my desktop is in normal use. Swappiness is set
59 to 20. In other words, only use swap when it is getting deep. It was
60 using half my swap so it must have been pretty deep.
61
62 So, even dbus can have a bad day at times. Sure wish I knew what caused
63 it tho.
64
65 Dale
66
67 :-) :-)
68
69 --
70 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or
71 how you interpreted my words!
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74 EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"