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Chris Gianelloni wrote: |
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> What exactly is there to "discuss" about this? |
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Evaluating our progress with hashing out the details etc. |
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> It is not an official |
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> project anymore, so the council really has no bearing on it. I'm |
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> guessing you would like for it to become an official project. |
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correct. |
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> If I were |
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> asked, some of the things I would bring up are: |
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> What has the existence of Sunrise done for Gentoo? |
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- We have formed a #gentoo-sunrise channel with an atmosphere of help and |
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friendliness |
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- We are teaching many people how to write ebuilds correctly and how to use |
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repoman to check for QA problems, etc. |
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> What new packages |
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> are now in the tree because of it? |
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For example I have added a fix for ftpd and libvc to the tree. I also bumped |
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media-video/dvd-slideshow. Markus Ullman added net-analyzer/wireshark from |
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a sunrise contributor, drchandra, to portage. |
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> What new developers have been |
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> recruited because of it? |
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Recruiting is a long-term goal. We already have a two people that have done |
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the ebuild quiz, one other is working on it. It is like release work: they |
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will be released as developers when they are ready. I do not |
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want "alpha-developers" on the tree. And no, we will not reveal the release |
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date ;) |
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> What packages that were previously without |
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> maintainers in the tree have found maintainers due to Sunrise? |
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I mentioned a few packages above where I fixed bugs because of sunrise |
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people, that does not mean they found maintainers, but people care about it |
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and I can commit their fixes if needed. |
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> I think you fail to see that for something like Sunrise to prove itself |
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> as a viable Gentoo project, it has to actually accomplish some of its |
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> stated goals. |
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Looking up the "stated goals" in the cvs log: |
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http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/sunrise/index.xml?hideattic=0&view=markup |
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> encourage users to write ebuilds |
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> find new recruits |
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> make maintainer-wanted ebuild access and development easier |
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> work with users on new ebuilds and explain them what they can do better |
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We have only found potential recruits but at least those four have been |
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reached. |
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> That being said, if the council wants to discuss it, they're more than |
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> welcome to. I just personally feel it wouldn't be time well spent. |
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Not discussing is not a solution either. The last userrel-meeting about |
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sunrise was very successfull. If you want we can make another meeting and |
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talk about it together before the council meeting? I would love that, to |
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hear some more about your ideas for the "stated goals" of Sunrise and get |
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issues sorted out without (perceivedly) offensive mails on the developer |
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mailing list. |
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Best regards, |
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Stefan |
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