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From: Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o>
Subject: Re: RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:26:18 +0800
On 06/23/12 21:21, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> There's been a move towards using slots for "clever" things that don't
> fit the traditional way of how slots worked. Examples include the new
> gtk2 / gtk3 handling and Ruby gems virtuals.
> Aside from being abusive,
No, it solves a real problem.
>  this screws things up for Paludis users.
-EDONTCARE, use a supported package manager
> Paludis tends to bring in newer versions when possible (so that users
> aren't stuck with an old GCC forever), and allows the user to select
> when new slots are brought in. When suddenly a few packages are using
> slots and versions to "mean" something other than what they used to,
> this makes the feature unusable.
> Thus, as a quick workaround, I'd like to suggest adding a PROPERTIES
> value called "funky-slots", which should be set on every version of any
> package that uses slots in an unconventional manner. This probably
> doesn't need EAPI control, since package manglers are free to ignore
> PROPERTIES tokens. It won't solve the abuse, but it will allow the
> impact upon users to be lessened.
Hackfix. Hardcode those packages in paludis if you need to. Cleaner and
faster quick workaround until you can figure out a clean solution.

No reason to hack a working solution to bits, especially as it is rather
easy to mask specific versions if they annoy you (as I do to keep my
systems gtk3-free). The current solution is a side-effect of some
upstreams being very confused, but I like the -r200/-r300 versioning fix
for gtk apps.

RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots
-- Ciaran McCreesh
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