Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 11:46 +0200 schrieb Patrick Lauer:
> > We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
> > Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were
> > users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead.
> 
> So what are _you_ doing to make it better?

I started to maintain those "unmaintained" packages which are important
to me myself and ended up in the net-mail/netmon herds for example.
Postfix, Cyrus-Imap, Bind, Nagios and several others are packages i put
my hands on - just because noone else did and those were and still are
essential to me.

> > - hardened-sources are nowadays only available in an experimental
> > overlay, lots of users keep asking what's happening to the
> > hardened-sources on both the -dev but also the -hardened mailinglist.
> > Yeah, we do have people working on hardened stuff, but if people just
> > take what's happening in the portage tree they might think that the
> > hardened stuff they're relying on for their business isn't supported any
> > longer. 
> With Zorry we just got a new recruit for working on hardened things,
> especially toolchain. It's not as dead as you make it sound ...

Good to see there's something happening in hardened - but still, the
user outside of Gentoo still only is seeing: "Oh, no hardened-sources
update for nearly a year."

> > - Understaffed herds: For example net-mail, netmon and others - were
> > missing lots of developers and their support in lots of areas. Sadly
> > those areas are mostly those ones, one might need packages for their
> > business servers from.
> And still, when someone tries to fix things in such an understaffed herd
> people go all territorial and are like "omg u touched my package".
> Right now I'm quite confused what our project strategy seems to be, as
> far as I can tell there's one group aiming for an aesthetical optimum
> and the other group just wants to get things fixed. And they are not
> cooperating well ...

I for one can't say I had any territorial problems when touching
packages belonging to other devs or herds - it's just a problem if you
screw up.

- Tobias

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