Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: have portage be quiet by default

[Dale]

Hilco Wijbenga wrote:
> On 14 November 2011 10:34, Dale<rdalek1967@×××××.com>  wrote:
>> Zac Medico wrote:
>>> On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
>>>> As I type:
>>>>
>>>> emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
>>>>
>>>> So far that's the winner.  As I posted earlier, people expect things to
>>>> work like they have always worked.  I say that as a user.
>>> As I've explained in my post to that forum thread [1], you have to
>>> factor in the "silent majority" that welcomes the change and does not
>>> express it publicly. A forumor mailing list thread tends to attract a
>>> "vocal minority", which tends to bias the discussion (or voting results)
>>> in way that does not give a fair statistical representation of the
>>> gentoo population as a whole (it excludes the "silent majority"). It's
>>> part of human nature that those who are displeased with the changed more
>>> likely to speak up than those who welcome the change.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6871718.html?sid=960ebd269384029c21e708d8dfa745ef#6871718
>> The same could be said if the poll was going the other way as well.  If the
>> results are not going to be used or just going to be explained away, then
>> why have the poll to begin with?   I don't think you started the poll but
>> just saying. . .
>>
>> Again, as a loooooong time user, I expect things to remain like they are
>> unless that is going to break something or is a must change with no other
>> option.  That does happen from time to time but this is not one of those
>> times.  I shouldn't have to go override settings just to keep it like it
>> was.
> Shouldn't you still be on MS-DOS then? ;-) Insisting that basically
> nothing should ever change seems rather extreme... And not very
> realistic?
>

Allow me to quote myself:

" is a must change with no other option."

I wasn't talking about computers in general but about portage.  So let 
me rephrase this a bit.  I expect PORTAGE to work like it has unless a 
change is forced because of a lack of other options.  I was trying to 
keep it on topic.  I could use the analogy that Ford might decide to 
make it so that when you turn the steering wheel to the right the car 
goes left.  Thing is, that doesn't quite stay on topic and may not even 
be a good comparison.  Thing is, it is not what people are used to or 
expect.  If you think about it, they could just say that the bottom of 
the steering wheel tells which way you will be going not the top.  This 
would be the case even if the steering wheel is on the opposite side of 
the car too.  ^_^

Also, I don't use anything M$.  I have NEVER bought anything that M$ 
makes.  Period.  As long as Linux exists, I have not only a good option 
but a GREAT option.  Read that as I hate winders.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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