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From: Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage by gentoo-java's doing migration work
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:31:54
Message-Id: 1151079252.5360.61.camel@localhost
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage by gentoo-java's doing migration work by Henrik Brix Andersen
1 On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 16:40 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
2 > On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 10:20:44AM -0400, Joshua Nichols wrote:
3 > > Unless there's more discussions going on than I'm privy too... what I
4 > > grokked out of the IRC log was that the argument was that it's an
5 > > 'unofficial overlay'.
6 >
7 > No, this is about a project that was supposed to be suspended until
8 > its details have been hashed out.
9 >
10 Just to take this to a humorous extreme -
11 would you be content if sunrise ceased all operations?
12
13 I mean, the sundown overlay I've started on my server has nothing to do
14 with it (except that it has all the same files), and apart from
15 accidentally having the same users there is no relation implied.
16 Since it never was a Gentoo project and does explicitly say in big red
17 blinking letters that it is only supporting ebuilds for Gentoo-like
18 distributions you don't have any hook to get it disabled.
19
20 That would kill all those arguments while not changing any _facts_ about
21 sunrise. That's what bugs me, you're lawyering around, disputing
22 semantic border cases instead of doing anything I see as reasonable. You
23 can't stop sunrise from existing on non-Gentoo hardware, you can't make
24 the devs stop working on it, you could only pull it closer, let it run
25 on Gentoo hardware and influence it.
26 So you chose to not be able to influence it, but then complain when
27 people do what they want to do in their spare time, only tangentially
28 related to Gentoo.
29
30 Now I'll just disappear for the weekend, don't flame too much in my
31 absence ...
32
33 Patrick
34 --
35 Stand still, and let the rest of the universe move

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage by gentoo-java's doing migration work Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@×××××××××××××.uk>