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From: Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o>
Subject: Re: udev and /usr
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:24:58 -0400
On 09/19/2011 13:36, Greg KH wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 06:37:49AM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote:
>> On 09/19/2011 05:10, Michał Górny wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Could we stop putting random stuff in random dirs because 'it will
>>> work'? /etc is _SYSCONFDIR_. I don't see how PCI IDs are config at all.
>>
>>
>> The best answer is for someone to look into udev and see what it needs
>> exactly from /usr.  Does it really need pci.ids?  Or is it just the fact
>> that random udev rules might rely on a tool/lib in /usr?
> 
> Oh come on people, please do some basic research and read what has been
> posted about this numerous times in the past instead of just guessing.


I'll admit that I do need to read more.  But it seems this discussion goes
back a few months and there's no clear starting point on what began this.  I
don't always have time to keep tabs on every diverging trend in the Linux
world, so I missed this back when it started.  Any references you can point
me to?


> And for those udev/systemd haters, you all do know about devtmpfs,
> right?  If not, {sigh}, I don't even know why I care anymore...

I'm not a hater of systemd or udev.  I just don't use systemd, because basic
init and the OpenRC setup work for my installs.  Maybe not everyone's, so
systemd (and others) fill those gaps.

With udev, I don't pay a lot of attention to it -- it JustWorks(TM).  No
need to really fiddle with something that isn't broken.

-- 
Joshua Kinard
Gentoo/MIPS
kumba@g.o
4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28

"The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us.  And
our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between."

--Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic

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References:
Re: udev and /usr
-- Rich Freeman
Re: udev and /usr
-- Michał Górny
Re: udev and /usr
-- Nirbheek Chauhan
Re: udev and /usr
-- Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Re: udev and /usr
-- Nirbheek Chauhan
Re: udev and /usr
-- Joshua Kinard
Re: udev and /usr
-- Michał Górny
Re: udev and /usr
-- Joshua Kinard
Re: udev and /usr
-- Michał Górny
Re: udev and /usr
-- Joshua Kinard
Re: udev and /usr
-- Greg KH
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