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From: Mark Loeser <halcy0n@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:33:43
Message-Id: 20091014003335.GA20367@aerie.halcy0n.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree by Mike Frysinger
1 Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o> said:
2 > On Tuesday 13 October 2009 19:30:52 Joshua Saddler wrote:
3 > > All that to say, Tommy (et al), is that the idea of expecting users to
4 > > magically know everything and not to offer any documentation *in advance*
5 > > . . . is a silly idea. Good lord, can you imagine the shitstorm the X11
6 > > team would have gone through if they'd tried *that* without first writing
7 > > up xserver 1.5 and 1.6 migration guides?!
8 >
9 > we arent talking migrations that are forced onto everyone. we're talking
10 > about new code that users have to *opt in* for ("new net") that is only
11 > available in unstable. expecting everything in testing to be documented up
12 > front is unreasonable. no one is saying the stuff shouldnt be documented,
13 > just that complete user friendly coverage is not a requirement for unstable.
14 > your comments here dont really apply to bleeding edge -- they certainly apply
15 > to stable though.
16
17 I'd say this isn't correct. Unstable isn't a pure testing playground.
18 its meant for packages that should be considered for stable. As such,
19 we should make sure that we get the documentation needed ready, so we
20 can make sure that it is correct for people that are testing the upgrade
21 path for us. It then gives us a chance to correct our documentation
22 before it goes stable.
23
24 All this comes down to is laziness in documenting changes, and forcing
25 stuff upon our users. Neither of those things is good, and if everyone
26 thinks that's the status quo...that really should change.
27
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29 --
30 Mark Loeser
31 email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org
32 email - mark AT halcy0n DOT com
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree Jeroen Roovers <jer@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree Thomas Sachau <tommy@g.o>