Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Fact: the underlying issue is a libtool bug.

Wrong, it isn't just that, --as-needed and libtool are unrelated.

> Fact: as-needed does not fix this bug. It attempts to work around it.

Wrong, --as-needed does exactly what is supposed to do, precise bookkeeping.

> Fact: as-needed breaks standard-compliant code.

Wrong, --as-needed breaks disputable code that happens to be 
standard-compliant by a specific read of the standard. The fact the 
specific code is something wrong from the security/style/maintainability 
point makes it a bonus.

> Fact: fixing the libtool bug would give all the benefits purportedly
> given by using as-needed, without the drawbacks.

Wrong, fixing libtool gives other benefits, so it's worth trying to fix 
it as well. The new autotools and proper usage of them makes life easier 
so it's worth improving on this side.

> It's quite simple,

Probably but is an empty sentence w/out supporting code.

> and if there're any of the above that you didn't
> already know then why are you wasting everyone else's time discussing
> things in this thread without doing some basic research first?

Basically most people is discussing with you since thinks, wrongly, that 
could be possible take something good from this discussion. The patch 
you pointed doesn't look complete nor acceptable to upstream as is, yet 
could help.

lu

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Luca Barbato
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Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC
http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

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