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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] net-proxy/squid needs your love
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 22:54:18
Message-Id: 20100806225419.GA3436@Mystical
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] net-proxy/squid needs your love by "Petteri Räty"
1 On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 08:47:36PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
2 > On 08/04/2010 08:34 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
3 > > On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 07:12:18PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
4 > >> On 08/04/2010 02:50 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
5 > >>
6 > >>>
7 > >>> @Council: Yet another example that we need to track the status of every
8 > >>> single project in order to have a clear picture of which projects are
9 > >>> active and which are dead
10 > >>>
11 > >>
12 > >> Pruning projects that don't actively elect a lead would be a good start
13 > >> and that doesn't require anything from the council to be implemented.
14 > >>
15 > >> Regards,
16 > >> Petteri
17 > >>
18 > > Don't you think we need a team for that? Who is eligible to filter the project
19 > > list and ask status updates from them?
20 > >
21 >
22 > I think undertakers can take care of any possible cleanup commits as
23 > they already touch project pages for developer retirements.
24 Is there enough manpower for that ?
25 > If you want
26 > to join for that purpose just be in contact with them and I think they
27 > will accept my proposal.
28 I wish I could but I am involved in way too many projects. Maybe on September.
29 > As for just status queries I think anyone could
30 > query the status from projects and nothing special is required. Of
31 > course we should coordinate so that many simultaneous queries are not done.
32 >
33 > Regards,
34 > Petteri
35 >
36 The inactivity of many herds most of the time blocks the work of some other
37 herds. Isn't council's responsibility to step up and resolve these
38 interproject issues? It shouldn't be that difficult to ask for monthly project
39 status updates ( A simple "Yes, we are alive but slow kthxbye" would be
40 sufficient, just to know that somebody is actually listening to that e-mail
41 alias after all ), discuss this on Council's monthly meetings ( Shouldn't it take
42 more than 20' if you already have the status updates on your Inbox ) and decide whether
43 you should prune these herds or not. IMHO undertakers cannot handle the load
44 atm but council can.
45
46 Furthermore this inactivity ( as I said before ) doesn't look that good at all
47 to our user community . Moreover it seems like dead herds don't even
48 bother to ask for help or "hire" more proxy maintainers to co-maintainer some
49 of their ebuilds. They just stay quiet on their corner and do nothing. Since
50 Council is supposed to be the leading entity of Gentoo I was wondering how
51 come this issue never popped up on any of your meetings. Do you really don't
52 see a problem here or I am just that weird and everything is running smoothly?
53
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56 Markos Chandras (hwoarang)
57 Gentoo Linux Developer
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Re: [gentoo-dev] net-proxy/squid needs your love "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <jmbsvicetto@g.o>