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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@...>
Subject: Re: zlib breakage
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 03:09:37 +0000 (UTC)
Andreas K. Huettel posted on Sat, 24 Sep 2011 00:02:50 +0200 as excerpted:

>> It's a mess right now and it just doesn't look right.  The bug that
>> deals with it was locked from public view:
> Is there any good reason why this bug is dev-only? Going over the
> contents I dont see any.
> (And we've been bickering in far worse ways on public bugs.)
> <snip>
> We will not hide problems We will keep our bug report database open for
> public view at all times; reports that users file online will
> immediately become visible to others. Exceptions are made when we
> receive security-related or developer relations information with the
> request not to publicize before a certain deadline. </snip>

FWIW, thanks, to you for the quote and to Alec W. for unhiding the bug.

The bug hiding distressed me and I thought about bringing it here as 
well, as the logical escalation.  I didn't, but I'm glad someone did, and 
that "the right thing"[1] was done in response. =:^)

As for the technical issue, IMO our patching was indeed a bit of the cart 
before the horse, but if upstream zlib ends up taking it, in practice 
it's a tempest in a teapot.  And agree or disagree, if we don't trust the 
dev who did it, as a practical matter as Gentoo users, we've got bigger 
problems. =:^|

That said, between this (being the bug lockout way more than the 
relatively trivial technical issue) and the changelog thing, I'm honestly 
getting a bit worried.  I'll leave it at that as that's the bit that 
SHOULD be non-public, by the contract as well. =:^|

[1]  Those who disagree that it was "the right thing" should really 
consider whether that Gentoo social contract needs changed, then.  
Because based on it, hiding that bug was and remains "the wrong thing".  
Of course, the statement that contract makes was one of the things that 
originally brought me, and I imagine others here, to Gentoo in the first 
place, and IMO it'd be a sad day for Gentoo were that to change or even 
to need changed.

Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman

zlib breakage
-- Nikos Chantziaras
Re: zlib breakage
-- Andreas K. Huettel
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