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/me puts on his asbestos underwear |
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Markos Chandras wrote: |
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> So the attendance to council meetings is enough to prove that a member is |
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> active? 0_o |
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Yes. Anything else is just too hard to measure, imo. If you notice a |
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council member acting w/o knowing what the heck is going on, then vote |
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him down next election. |
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> place on the mailing list. Because I really doubt that *all* council members |
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> are reading the mailing list in daily basis so they get to know everything |
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> that is going on to Gentoo. |
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This is impossible. Council should follow -council and debate points |
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pushed onto their agenda via -dev. At least that's my understanding. |
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> The only council |
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> members who look active to me are Petteri and Denis. |
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While I applaud Denis and Petteri for taking a stand on the pit that |
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-dev is, I doubt council members should be required to participate here. |
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They can vote on an issue without discussing their opinion first, based |
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on their technical/social experience (which is what I voted them in for, |
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in the first place) |
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> A council member is inactive when: |
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> |
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> 1) He is inactive in critical discussions ( such as the whole Phoenix |
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> discussion ) for a certain period of time |
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Please, no. Or we start to get -council/-dev threads about why a certain |
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thread here is not considered critical by half of the council when they |
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don't reply. If you can't put a number on it, please don't make it a |
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hard requirement. |
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> 2) Fails to accomplish his role by supervising the Gentoo projects. |
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This isn't even in their domain. I would complain *loud* about any |
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council member interfering with projects unless it's an inter-project |
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issue. The council is meant for arbitration and vision, not for |
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commanding devs. |
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> Remember we have plenty of Gentoo projects nearly dead and there is |
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> no way for us to participate since contacting the project leaders is |
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> a no-go. |
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Huh? That's what I did with php. Chtekk was most helpful, and because |
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he's no longer active (wish him all the best!), nobody stopped me from |
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updating the projects pages to reflect that (after speaking to the team, |
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of course!) |
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Rather than relying on the council for whatever "leadership" you want, |
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please just DO something that scratches YOUR itch. I'm aware our current |
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technical/social infrastructure is not up to par on handling large scale |
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contributions by hundreds of users/non-devs. I realize there's this |
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impression that every time you have an idea there's a mob of people |
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stoning your idea to death. I have however observed that the more mature |
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(read: the more implemented code) your idea is, the smaller the stones. |
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And if your idea is good enough, others might use their stones for |
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building instead of mud-slinging. |
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Just my 2cent. |