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From: Chrissy Fullam <musikc@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:40:03
Message-Id: 058401c8f3ec$d6b90420$842b0c60$@org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7 by Lukasz Damentko
1 > Fair enough. Let me wrap up the IRC part.
2 >
3 > 1. I'd like to ask Council to discuss possible reactions to our
4 > developer being banned from Freenode without providing us with a
5 > reason. The situation looks like one of Freenode staffers overreacted
6 > over something Chris said during previous Council meeting and banned
7 > him to prevent him from attending next meetings when he was supposed
8 > to provide more information on the CoC topic. The ban was removed
9 > after an hour,
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11 The ban was put in place on Sunday; the ban was lifted on Tuesday evening = way longer than one hour. Chris tried to speak to Freenode staff on Freenode but was told he was evading the ban and they would not speak to him there. He had to find out from me what the email address was (as it's not documented on Freenode's site) and email them to ask why he was banned. Christel responded later that day and simply apologized and removed the ban. Chris again emailed to ask *why* he was banned but Freenode staff has ignored his second email requesting information about his own ban.
12 To me it looks like they not only will not tell us, they will not tell the individual who was actually banned and that is in poor professional taste and only further serves to drive a wedge between our ability to work with Freenode.
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14 > 2. I want Council to consider moving their meetings somewhere where
15 > third parties can't control who in Gentoo can attend and who can't.
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17 This is an interesting idea. Perhaps a good trial for a transition?
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19 > 3. I want Council to consider creating and using irc.gentoo.org alias
20 > instead of irc.freenode.net in our docs, news items and so on.
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22 Seems pretty logical so I just want to say that I like this whoever came up with this. :)
23
24 > Debian did exactly the same a couple of months
25 > ago prior to them moving out to OFTC
26 > (http://www.debian.org/News/2006/20060604)
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28 This addresses a question I raised a few days back regarding whether we were concerned that Gentoo moving to any another network would have a negative impact on our community. This demonstrates that not only is this not a new idea, but that a peer community did the same thing. Does anyone have any contacts within Debian that would be willing to share their 'lessons learned' from the transition?
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31 Kind regards,
32 Christina Fullam
33 Gentoo Developer Relations Lead | Gentoo Public Relations

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7 Robert Buchholz <rbu@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7 Tom Wesley <tom@×××××.net>