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From: Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>
Subject: Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:26:23 -0700
On 03/14/2012 12:14 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 03/14/12 14:56, Zac Medico wrote:
>> On 03/14/2012 11:36 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 19:58, Matthew Summers
>>> <quantumsummers@g.o> wrote:
>>>> Why is an in-kernel initramfs so bad anyway? I am baffled. Its quite
>>>> nice to have a minimal recovery env in case mounting fails, etc, etc,
>>>> etc.
>>>
>>> There is nothing bad about initramfs. I think that you are misreading
>>> the arguments above.
>>
>> Whatever the arguments may be, the whole discussion boils down to the
>> fact that the only people who seem to have a "problem" are those that
>> have a separate /usr partition and simultaneously refuse to use an
>> initramfs.
> 
> People just don't like change for the sake of change, and haven't been
> shown any benefits yet. I don't have a separate /usr anywhere, but if I
> did, I would have to rebuild and test a good number of custom kernels
> that would eventually need to wind up on production servers.
> 
> It would take a least a day's worth of work, not to mention staying late
> to make the switch overnight. If you can offer me something cool for it,
> great; but at the moment people are being offered "it will work the same
> as it did yesterday," which sucks, because it works that way now.
> 
> Sure, there will be improvements in the future, but it can feel a lot
> like treading water sometimes.

Well, for most people, the most practical course of action is to suck it
up [1] and move on. Dwelling on it certainly won't help, and the
"redesign the entire filesystem" approach probably isn't very practical
for most people either.

[1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/suck_it_up
-- 
Thanks,
Zac


References:
Re: Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181
-- William Hubbs
Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181]
-- Joshua Kinard
Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181]
-- James Broadhead
Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181]
-- Joshua Kinard
Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181]
-- Duncan
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Joshua Kinard
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Greg KH
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Philip Webb
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Greg KH
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Ciaran McCreesh
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Greg KH
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Maxim Kammerer
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Zac Medico
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Matthew Summers
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Maxim Kammerer
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Zac Medico
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Michael Orlitzky
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