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From: Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:27:30
Message-Id: 4F60F0DF.80708@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! by Michael Orlitzky
1 On 03/14/2012 12:14 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
2 > On 03/14/12 14:56, Zac Medico wrote:
3 >> On 03/14/2012 11:36 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote:
4 >>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 19:58, Matthew Summers
5 >>> <quantumsummers@g.o> wrote:
6 >>>> Why is an in-kernel initramfs so bad anyway? I am baffled. Its quite
7 >>>> nice to have a minimal recovery env in case mounting fails, etc, etc,
8 >>>> etc.
9 >>>
10 >>> There is nothing bad about initramfs. I think that you are misreading
11 >>> the arguments above.
12 >>
13 >> Whatever the arguments may be, the whole discussion boils down to the
14 >> fact that the only people who seem to have a "problem" are those that
15 >> have a separate /usr partition and simultaneously refuse to use an
16 >> initramfs.
17 >
18 > People just don't like change for the sake of change, and haven't been
19 > shown any benefits yet. I don't have a separate /usr anywhere, but if I
20 > did, I would have to rebuild and test a good number of custom kernels
21 > that would eventually need to wind up on production servers.
22 >
23 > It would take a least a day's worth of work, not to mention staying late
24 > to make the switch overnight. If you can offer me something cool for it,
25 > great; but at the moment people are being offered "it will work the same
26 > as it did yesterday," which sucks, because it works that way now.
27 >
28 > Sure, there will be improvements in the future, but it can feel a lot
29 > like treading water sometimes.
30
31 Well, for most people, the most practical course of action is to suck it
32 up [1] and move on. Dwelling on it certainly won't help, and the
33 "redesign the entire filesystem" approach probably isn't very practical
34 for most people either.
35
36 [1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/suck_it_up
37 --
38 Thanks,
39 Zac