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On 09/18/2011 13:26, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: |
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> I don't see how this is relevant to the problem of udev and /usr at |
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> all. Unless you want to go back to the days of devfs and lots of |
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> manual configuration. :) |
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Me either (somewhat). But I do see is this: If udev is going to make it a |
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requirement that one or more paritions be available at udevd start time, |
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then maybe going back to devfs might not be such a bad idea after all. |
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I use plain vanilla setups on almost any Linux box I build. For x86, LILO |
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(yes, that thing), a simple kernel, most hardware built in, some extraneous |
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stuff built as modules. sysvinit for the init package, /{usr,home,var,tmp} |
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on separate partitions, no X11, no gnome, no KDE, no Xfce, no fluxbox, no |
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IRIS Indigo, no aewm++, no CDE, no DBUS, no audio support (the machine |
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doesn't even have an audio card), headless (except with it messes up, which |
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is very rare), etc. I.e., I run my box like a server. |
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My MIPS systems (the working ones, anyways) are even more vanilla. I |
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netboot each of them off my x86 box versus using a bootloader, they have |
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what amounts to a minimal Gentoo install, system + plus other utilities, |
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definitely no X11, etc. |
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These setups are pretty much plain vanilla Linux/UNIX setups, and it's what |
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has worked for years, so I don't see a need to change it with a permanence. |
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If other distros want to create alternatives, that is fine. But *I* should |
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retain the choice to use or not to use those alternatives. That means, udev |
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needs to be configurable enough to allow me to make it _not_ require /usr |
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being available. Let the default be the other way -- that's fine. |
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But if udev upstream is taking *away* choice, and making /usr mandatory |
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(especially if it's because some other distro has this offbeat, utopian, |
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überDesktop concept), then that's a bug and someone needs to write a patch |
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and send it upstream. |
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Joshua Kinard |
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Gentoo/MIPS |
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kumba@g.o |
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4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28 |
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"The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And |
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our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between." |
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--Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic |
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