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From: Dhruba Bandopadhyay <dhruba@××××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o, gentoo-user@g.o, dhruba@××××××××××××.uk
Subject: [gentoo-dev] etc-update & ._cfg* files: major issue with gentoo?
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 01:36:48
Message-Id: 33052.192.168.0.8.1041817268.squirrel@webmail.codewordt.co.uk
1 Hello,
2
3 I am having great difficulty dealing with one particular feature of gentoo
4 and would like to bring it to your attention. I am writing in length
5 since I very much like gentoo and would like to do whatever I can to
6 further its progress.
7
8 When emerging packages configuration files beginning with ._cfg* are left
9 in /etc and other locations and on subsequent emerges portage warns that
10 one has X number of files remaining. Now, on many occassions I have had
11 several of these files on my system and have postponed dealing with them
12 simply because they are a hassle. Once in a while however, I use
13 etc-update to sort them with care.
14
15 There are many problems with the way this is done for a non-expert user
16 (which may include myself) and the ones below are only a few of them.
17
18 (1) It is not completely clear which files should be deleted and which
19 overwritten.
20 (2) Errors can result from making necessary changes using etc-update.
21 (3) There are no guidelines on the use of etc-update. Although,
22 documentation does warn that etc-update can be dangerous and must be used
23 with care, how is the non-expert user to interpret this advice and how
24 much does it really tell him about the use of it?
25 (4) If files are not sorted they stay in their locations indefinitely,
26 increase in number and portage warns the user about them on its every use.
27 (5) Even if one does see differences in older versions and new ones how
28 does one tell if these differences should be preserved or discarded?
29 (6) If errors or difficulties result how does one rollback?
30 (7) Shoud sorting be as time consuming as it is currently especially with
31 the interactive merging of text?
32
33 I can speak from experience about suffering from problems. For instance
34 today, despite sorting files as carefully as I could, gdm won't load
35 anymore and shows no error messages since gdm files were overwritten
36 (luckily I use xdm) and also fonts in gnome related applications are now
37 huge and different because font locations were changed. Now, I did look
38 at the content of these files before I replaced the older versions but how
39 is one to know beforehand what is going to cause issues?
40
41 I am not referring to specific errors here but discussing the
42 functionality of this feature. Does this really have to be as much of an
43 effort and annoyance as it is now and must one lose out on the benefits of
44 new files simply because they do not dare overwrite the older files? I
45 would hate for something like this to be a drawback of an otherwise
46 automated and applaudable OS.
47
48 I hope I have been clear in expressing myself and I don't think for a
49 minute that I'm alone in this issue. Hence, I would very much like to
50 hear comments and suggestions whatever they may be from users and
51 developers alike.
52
53 Best wishes.
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55 Dhruba Bandopadhyay | dhruba@××××××××××××.uk | ICQ 31628525
56 Gentoo Linux 1.4rc1 | Vanilla Sources 2.4.20 | Enlightenment 16.5
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Replies

Subject Author
[gentoo-dev] Re: etc-update & ._cfg* files: major issue with gentoo? Brian Jackson <brian-lists@××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-dev] etc-update & ._cfg* files: major issue with gentoo? Sven Vermeulen <sven.vermeulen@××××××.be>
[gentoo-dev] Re: etc-update & ._cfg* files: major issue with gentoo? kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=)