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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:29:16
Message-Id: 200910131823.39417.hwoarang@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree by Matthias Schwarzott
1 On Saturday 10 October 2009 23:30:05 Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
2 > On Samstag, 10. Oktober 2009, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
3 > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Alin Năstac <mrness@g.o> wrote:
4 > > > On 10/9/09 7:57 PM, Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
5 > > >> * does new scripts already can do all that was possible with net.* ?
6 > > >
7 > > > No. PPP is not compatible with the new scripts.
8 > >
9 > > Major regression. It never pays to drop surprises on people like this.
10 > > I *strongly* suggest masking openrc-0.5.1 until the documentation is
11 > > updated and a news file is sent.
12 >
13 > Why do you suggest masking it immediately?
14 > Emerging it without changing any use-flags, has oldnet enabled by default,
15 > so user gets exactly the same net init-scripts as with openrc-0.4 before,
16 > so where is the regression that needs to be masked?
17 > One can still use the same stuff and nobody is forced to transition to the
18 > new network script.
19 >
20 > Regards
21 > Matthias
22 >
23 I agree with Nirbheek. You should always provide an updated documentation (
24 and a news item if necessary ) when you release a new major update of such
25 core packages. I would like to see new openrc masked until the documentation
26 is ready with full details about the transition to the new network init
27 script.
28 If you don't provide such documentation in time, you will fail to make users
29 switch to new init script in the near future, since everybody will forget
30 about this and will use the 'oldnet' use flag anyway.
31 The sooner you will explain them how to migrate, the better
32 results/feedback/updated systems you will get
33
34 just my 2cc :)
35 --
36 Markos Chandras (hwoarang)
37 Gentoo Linux Developer [KDE/Qt/Sound/Sunrise]
38 Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org

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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree Matthias Schwarzott <zzam@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>