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From: Nick Devito <nick125@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Virtualization Herd
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:24:02
Message-Id: 1151961527.29593.33.camel@continental.nick125.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Virtualization Herd by "Benedikt Böhm"
1 That's what I was trying to say is that bochs/qemu/vmware are emulation
2 since they emulate x86 hardware, though I would see some good by
3 including Xen and User-mode Linux with the VPS Project, since that seems
4 fitting. Oh yeah, don't forget vmware-server, that's supposely supposed
5 to be used in virtualization enviroments (I personally haven't tried it,
6 but, it's on my todo list to play around with most virtualization
7 technology least once :)
8
9 On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 22:38 +0200, Benedikt Böhm wrote:
10 > On Monday 03 July 2006 22:28, Benedikt Böhm wrote:
11 > > On Monday 03 July 2006 21:56, Nick Devito wrote:
12 > > > Okay, in that case, extend the vserver herd to include a larger range of
13 > > > virtualization stuff, including Xen, Bochs, and so on. It just seems
14 > > > more fitting to group those packages together.
15 > >
16 > > not really, bochs, qemu and vmware is emulation, merely used in
17 > > virtualization environments
18 >
19 > s/merely/barely/
20 >
21 > >
22 > > uml and xen do run with VMMs and don't share anything with
23 > > OpenVZ/Linux-VServer
24 > >
25 > > uml and xen could be integrated into the VPS project (with a different
26 > > herd) but i don't know what their maintainers are thinking about this
27 > >
28 > > > On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 21:48 +0200, Benedikt Böhm wrote:
29 > > > > On Monday 03 July 2006 19:49, Nick Devito wrote:
30 > > > > > Looking at the number of virtualization-related packages (xen,
31 > > > > > openvz, and related packages) that are in portage, and the increasing
32 > > > > > complexity of these packages (which means more problems, as usual),
33 > > > > > I'm suggesting that a Virtualization herd be formed to handle these
34 > > > > > packages. I was also going to suggest moving virtualization-related
35 > > > > > things out of app-emulation, since they don't quite fit the bill of
36 > > > > > "emulation". Maybe QEMU, Bochs, and VMWare would fit, but, not quite.
37 > > > > > These are the packages that would be affected:
38 > > > > >
39 > > > > > * Xen/Xen-tools
40 > > > > > * QEMU
41 > > > > > * OpenVZ
42 > > > > > * Bochs
43 > > > > > * VMWare (workstation, server, etc)
44 > > > > > * User-mode Linux
45 > > > > >
46 > > > > > ..and the list goes on...
47 > > > >
48 > > > > the packages related to OS-level virtualization (OpenVZ, Linux-VServer)
49 > > > > are already in the vserver herd
50 > > > >
51 > > > > > Just a suggestion :)
52 > > > > >
53 > > > > > ~ Nick
54 >
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