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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:13:43
Message-Id: 1340453488.5979.65.camel@belkin4
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5 by Ciaran McCreesh
1 El sáb, 23-06-2012 a las 12:37 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
2 > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:38:09 +0200
3 > Peter Stuge <peter@×××××.se> wrote:
4 > > If you don't understand something of what thus far has been written,
5 > > then why not ask specific questions to fill those gaps, and move on?
6 >
7 > The multilib material isn't at the point where specific questions can be
8 > asked. Brian's description of it as an "opaque list of things" is
9 > pretty much spot on. That's why we want a GLEP and a PMS diff -- an
10 > attempt at those might bring this to the point where we can say
11 > something other than "huh?".
12 >
13
14 Looks like you have now opted to use Brian's comment as a kind of
15 "shield" of similar and discuss only about multilib, even when this
16 thread was more general and we were talking to the problems shown in
17 recent discussions (from forcing rebuilds issue, optional deps problems
18 to some trivial questions like know where we can see what things are
19 being worked out for eapi5).
20
21 In all that discussions there were a clear tendency to always say "it's
22 fine the way it's", even when a lot of people didn't even know what
23 things were going to be included in eapi5, or discuss for days about the
24 forcing rebuilds issue (with the, now classical, glib vs dbus-glib/g-i
25 issue) to finally still tell people "we still didn't fully know what the
26 problem was". I remember that, just after Brian and Zac's comments about
27 trying to clarify things a bit on that thread and reach a solution, your
28 reply to them was that we were missing a brilliant opportunity to
29 "encourage developers put in a bit more work to save users a huge amount
30 of pain here". Personally, I see a clear difference about their way to
31 show their disagreement and yours.
32
33 Of course, I know how this thread will end: once we decide to stop
34 replying (or anybody asks us to stop) as you seem to find this happy or
35 so and, of course, you will always say the last word, the problem will
36 get stalled until three months later somebody else rises the problem
37 again letting you to show again that "always rejecting position" you
38 seem to like.

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