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From: Eray Aslan <eray.aslan@×××××××.tr>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:12:12
Message-Id: 4AD56BB3.5010502@caf.com.tr
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree by Mike Frysinger
1 On 14.10.2009 03:17, Mike Frysinger wrote:
2 > On Tuesday 13 October 2009 19:30:52 Joshua Saddler wrote:
3 >> All that to say, Tommy (et al), is that the idea of expecting users to
4 >> magically know everything and not to offer any documentation *in advance*
5 >> . . . is a silly idea. Good lord, can you imagine the shitstorm the X11
6 >> team would have gone through if they'd tried *that* without first writing
7 >> up xserver 1.5 and 1.6 migration guides?!
8 >
9 > we arent talking migrations that are forced onto everyone. we're talking
10 > about new code that users have to *opt in* for ("new net") that is only
11 > available in unstable. expecting everything in testing to be documented up
12 > front is unreasonable.
13
14 While true in general, I cannot agree with you in this case. This is
15 not some random app we are talking about. It is a change in init
16 scripts that might render our servers inaccessible if things go wrong.
17 Please bear in mind that we have servers operating in datacenters in
18 other countries and network loss is the worst kind of bug you can
19 inflict upon us.
20
21 There is no documantation upstream. At least we have some docs in g.o
22 (kudos to whomever wrote it) but it is old (there is no mention of
23 oldnet USE flag for example). And IUSE="... +oldnet ..." is too fragile
24 a solution.
25
26 All I am saying is that this is a so important change that we should
27 have gotten it right from the beginning. Openrc should not have been
28 unmasked without proper documentation.
29
30 --
31 Eray

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree Maciej Mrozowski <reavertm@×××××.com>