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On 09/19/2011 07:17, Arun Raghavan wrote: |
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> On 19 September 2011 16:07, Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o> wrote: |
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> [...] |
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>> Yes, but some of us don't even want to have that initramfs built into our |
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>> kernels. And no one, other than freedesktop.org* and a few people on |
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>> linux-hotplug-devel*, said everything belongs in /usr. FHS clearly defines |
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>> the roles for /, /bin, /sbin, /lib*, /usr, /var, /home, /tmp and the virtual |
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>> fses. Plus others. |
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>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken |
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>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-hotplug&m=131206447302056&w=2 |
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>> Really, MacOS's filesystem layout is not something anyone in their right |
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>> mind should deign to mimic/copy. |
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> I didn't get that from either of the links you posted. Seems to me the |
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> systemd developers are looking at the split as a host-specific / vs |
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> host-independent /usr. |
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From: |
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http://marc.info/?l=linux-hotplug&m=131206447302056&w=2 |
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Kay Sievers writes: |
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> What's not needed today is stuff in /. We can think of /usr a /System. |
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> The entire system is installed in one single directory, and that can |
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> be mounted r/o, or even shared between many hosts/guest. The stuff on |
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> the rootfs is always host-only then. |
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It is from this that I derive the concept of a few folks wanting everything |
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in /usr, as-if to brand /usr the new / (where the 'old' / has just directory |
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stubs and a few symlinks, maybe some minor bits in /etc). That's also where |
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my Mac comment stems from, in that /System hides most of the details of the |
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BSD-nature of MacOS X, and tries to dissuade the user from ever having to go |
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in there. |
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Host-specific / and host-independent /usr is not itself a bad idea. I can |
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envision quite a few useful scenarios for this. But on a single box, why? |
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And for those of us with differing architectures, how would this add any |
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benefit? Is this more of a detail for future RHEL releases (since Fedora is |
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a type of proving ground for RH) so that sysadmins have an easier time |
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managing them? Nothing wrong with it, but it needs to be a configurable |
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choice by the end-user. |
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I'll admit I may not be as informed as I oughta to be, but what I have read |
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indicates that some people think this is the direction to go in, for various |
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reasons. |
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-- |
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Joshua Kinard |
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Gentoo/MIPS |
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kumba@g.o |
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4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28 |
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"The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And |
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our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between." |
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--Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic |
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