On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Rich Freeman <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan <email@example.com> wrote:
>> Since GNOME 3 is already in the
>> tree, and the news file content is straightforward, I'd like to commit
>> this in 24hrs if there are no problems.
> If we're gong to go to all the trouble to create upgrade guides and
> news/etc, wouldn't it make sense to send out the news item a few days
> BEFORE making the change?
That was indeed the intention, but there was a miscommunication.
> If a user runs emerge -u world daily they wouldn't even see this news item.
> Obviously the horses have already left the barn, but maybe this is
> something we can do differently when it comes time to stabilize the
All is not quite lost. An elog was added to the end of
gnome-base/gnome-core-libs which would be merged very early on in the
upgrade process. Of course this is not a substitute at all, but does
alleviate the issue. A forums post was also made by tetromino.
> I'm sure this was inadvertent, but looking beyond just this particular
> incident is there anything we can do to improve our use of news items?
> Since we're a distro that uses rolling releases users really have no
> way to know what to expect after any particular emerge world. It
> could be some completely routine bump that isn't going to cause
> problems, or it could require extensive rebuilding, config-file
> tweaking, and risk of the system not booting. News is really the only
> way to give them a heads-up in advance. Granted, something like a
> gnome/kde bump is going to pull in so many packages that I think most
> users would exercise caution, so that mitigates the issue a bit.
I think that the addition of a Display-If-Visible option would help,
along with the addition of news file procedures to the devmanual and
the quizzes. Even I didn't know where to commit the news file before
some creative googling today gave me the right answer.
Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team