List Archive: gentoo-dev
Petteri Räty wrote:
> Let's try something new. I would like to get opinions from as many
> people as possible about GLEP 55 and alternatives listed here in order
> to get some idea what the general developer pool thinks. Everyone is
> only allowed to post a single reply to this thread in order to make it
> easy to read through. The existing thread should be used for actual
> discussion about the GLEP and the alternatives. This should be a useful
> experiment to see if we can control ourselves :)
>
> My notes so far:
>
> 1) Status quo
> - does not allow changing inherit
> - bash version in global scope
> - global scope in general is quite locked down
>
> 2) EAPI in file extension
> - Allows changing global scope and the internal format of the ebuild
> a) .ebuild-<eapi>
> - ignored by current Portage
> b) .<eapi>.ebuild
> - current Portage does not work with this
> c) .<eapi>.<new extension>
> - ignored by current Portage
>
> 3) EAPI in locked down place in the ebuild
> - Allows changing global scope
> - EAPI can't be changed in an existing ebuild so the PM can trust
> the value in the cache
> - Does not allow changing versioning rules unless version becomes a
> normal metadata variable
> * Needs more accesses to cache as now you don't have to load older
> versions if the latest is not masked
> a) <new extension>
> b) new subdirectory like ebuilds/
> - we could drop extension all together so don't have to argue about
> it any more
> - more directory reads to get the list of ebuilds in a repository
> c) .ebuild in current directory
> - needs one year wait
>
> Regards,
> Petteri
>
Thanks for gathering input from the dev community. I do not wish to
respond to the monster thread (and won't).
Personally, I don't need the flexibility that glep55 provides for *my*
ebuilds. The current scheme doesn't bother me. And actually, after doing
some testing, I found that at least one of that packages/projects that I
am involved in will need updating every time the extension changes (or
some more broad change - I don't have time to investigate too much tbh).
So, I would prefer that the file extension did not change [much/every
eapi]. However, I can roll with the punches if it truely is needed. I
also understand that some change is good in the long run even if it has
some upfront cost to it.
However, in case that this discussion gets deferred until later, I would
like to express that the Council should "request" (not demand) that
portage adds support for the leading 2 ideas that result from the
current discussion. This will allow us to not wait even longer when we
are having this discussion in 2010 (hypothetically).
Thanks for listening, Petteri.
-Jeremy
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