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From: Dale <rdalek1967@...>
Subject: Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 08:05:02 -0600
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Dale<rdalek1967@...>  wrote:
>> This is my issue as well.  I tried to make a init* to deal with this and
>> have yet to get one to work, not one single working boot up.  I have tried
>> different howtos and not one of them produced anything that works.  I have
>> not found a dracut howto that makes any sense either.  Sorry but genkernel
>> left a bad taste in my mouth ages ago.
> While I think that the direction we're moving in (/usr on root or use
> an initramfs) is inevitable, I do agree that it needs some
> improvement.
>
> I've gotten Dracut to work fine in VMs (even with fairly complex
> setups), but every time I try it on my server it doesn't set up the
> raid for some reason, and drops me to a dash shell.  If I just run
> mdadm_auto at that point it takes about 15 seconds to find and setup
> my raid, and just typing exit boots the system just fine.  I keep it
> as an option in grub so that whenever my raid device numbers get mixed
> up (seems to happen every other month for no apparent reason) I can
> boot the system, since dracut does use the mdadm.conf and UUIDs to put
> everything in the right place and find the right root (something you
> can't do without an initramfs).  One of these days I'll figure out how
> to hack an mdadm_auto into the script as a last-ditch measure and then
> I'll just have to deal with a one-minute delay.
>
> For being the wave of the future it seems like the only documentation
> Dracut has is a single page website with a few paragraphs of info.
>
> I think the bottom line is that the future may look inevitable, but it
> isn't actually here yet.  I advocate being ready for the future, but
> let's try not to force its arrival before everything is mature (though
> having it in portage as an option is completely in the spirit of
> Gentoo).
>
> Rich
>
>


I installed dracut and it did something, although I'm not sure what 
yet.  I googled until I think google should be tired of me to find docs 
to help.  Getting it to run was on one page, then figuring out some 
options was on yet another page, then grub was on yet another.  I don't 
know yet if some of these are outdated or anything so I don't know if it 
is going to work or just blow up something. Please, don't ask me what it 
did.  I said I did it, I didn't say I understand it.  If it is broken or 
breaks in the future, I'm screwed.  (Sort of starting to wonder why I 
left Mandriva now.  I could have swore I wanted to be rid of init* stuff 
and make my on freakin kernels. )

I might also add for those considering dracut being the official way, it 
is keyworded at this point.  I would think someone needs to get this 
stable or whatever needs doing before telling folks to use this.  It may 
work fine but if that is the case, then it needs to be unkeyworded.  
Spell check doesn't like our terms here.

I think the future is actually taking several steps backward.  That 
point has been discussed to death tho.

I hope Sven has his thinking hat on.  Maybe I can help some with the 
docs.  If it works for me, it should work for most.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

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References:
rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
-- William Hubbs
Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
-- Sven Vermeulen
Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
-- Dale
Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
-- Rich Freeman
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