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From: Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis <Arfrever@g.o>
To: Gentoo Development <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:34:41
Message-Id: 201003261738.13918.Arfrever@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item by Brian Harring
1 2010-03-26 17:15:42 Brian Harring napisał(a):
2 > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 05:04:28PM +0100, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
3 > > 2010-03-26 16:43:57 Brian Harring napisał(a):
4 > > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 03:22:52PM +0100, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
5 > > > > Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis 2010-03-25 20:05:17 napisał(a):
6 > > > > > 2010-03-25 19:34:24 Roy Bamford napisał(a):
7 > > > > > > The case where Python-3 cannot be used as the default Python is
8 > > > > > > transitory (it may be a long time).
9 > > > > >
10 > > > > > Gentoo Python Project will soon start supporting setting Python 3 as main
11 > > > > > active version of Python. Currently about 57% of our packages from dev-python
12 > > > > > category are prepared.
13 > > > >
14 > > > > My script was wrong. More correct data:
15 > > > > About 55% of packages in dev-python category belonging to python herd are prepared.
16 > > > > 100% of packages in net-zope category belonging to python herd are prepared.
17 > > > > About 60% of packages belonging to python herd are prepared.
18 > > > > About 47% of packages in dev-python category not belonging to python herd are prepared.
19 > > > > About 13% of packages not belonging to python herd are prepared.
20 > > > > About 34% of all packages depending on Python are prepared.
21 > > >
22 > > > I get the feeling your phrasing here is a bit misleading- 'support
23 > > > setting py3k as main active python' implies that the stats above are
24 > > > the # of pkgs in the tree supporting *using* a py3k interpretter.
25 > > >
26 > > > I'm betting you mean "support multi-abi", meaning if you've got py2.6
27 > > > and py3.1, it'll install into py2.6, while avoiding py3k. Fair bit of
28 > > > a difference.
29 > >
30 > > These numbers include packages which support installation for multiple Python ABIs
31 > > and packages which call python_set_active_version().
32 >
33 > Bleh. So in other words a third of the pkgs that dep on python have
34 > the minimal basics for dealing w/ py3k landing. I'd question what
35 > percentile have proper locked deps also (stating they're py2k only),
36 > but that's a seperate discussion.
37 >
38 > That *still* doesn't answer the question of how many can be *ran* by
39 > py3k also.
40 >
41 > Note in the past when breakages of this sort have been unleashed, the
42 > percentile of prepared pkgs has been generally a helluva lot higher-
43 > having 90% prepared is one thing, but y'all aren't at that point and
44 > you've got 3 weeks (after what, 3 months?) to bring the percentile
45 > higher then a third?
46 >
47 > What's the minimal percentile you're aiming for prior to the
48 > unmasking?
49
50 Python ebuilds will start automatically setting Python 3 as main active
51 version of Python when all bugs blocking bug #308257 are fixed.
52
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54 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis

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