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On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:39:04PM +0200, Lars Wendler wrote: |
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> Am Donnerstag 21 April 2011, 03:12:21 schrieb Donnie Berkholz: |
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> > It seems like nobody's really clear on what exactly happens though, |
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> > since I've seen people talking about this *maybe* resulting in an |
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> > unbootable system. Has anyone tested it? |
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> I didn't test it intentionally. The last time I accidently rebooted a system |
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> freshly moved to bl-2/openrc without updating the config files the boot process |
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> threw a couple of strange errors. I cannot exactly remember what kind of |
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> errors that were but the result was a system hanging in the middle of the boot |
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> process with a message similar to "nothing left to do in this runlevel" and I |
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> wasn't able to log into the system. |
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> Another problem I've once encountered after updating a system to use openrc |
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> was no running udev daemon after boot. I first didn't notice this but X didn't |
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> start and funny part was that X won't tell you it cannot start because the |
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> devicenodes in /dev for the graphics card were missing. So took me nearly a |
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> day of frustrating research until I found that the udev init script wasn't |
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> added to the sysinit runlevel. Of course this is mentioned in the migration |
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> guide but it should be explicitly pointed out how fatal this can be to not |
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> have udev getting started. |
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> I can offer to "abuse" my two stable VMs (amd64 / x86) for this to test if |
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> there's interest in getting "exact results". :) |
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Exact results please; the pkg_pretend crap proposed elsewhere (which |
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is yet another way to crap up stage builds) frankly sucks. |
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Mind you I'm just looking in, but this whole upgrade process really |
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reads fairly suboptimal to me. It's definitely possible that this is |
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the best that can be done, but I'd like to see exactly which issues we |
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can't resolve in some fashion via pkg_postinst tricks w/in openrc. |
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I'd much rather have an ebuild that violates a few rules than forced |
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"you must accept this beyond normal mechanisms" and potential "can't |
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boot" upgrade processes. |
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So... details please, and why we can't script our way past chunks of |
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this. :) |
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~brian |
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