Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New ebuild metadata to mark how robust the package is?

[Ladislav Laska]

Of course, by "safe" I meant "unsafe" or "needs-additional-care" or
whatever,... My bad.

Regards Ladislav Laska
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On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Ladislav Laska
<ladislav.laska@×××××.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One can see some similarity to a thread around week or two old (about
> critical packages). I would imagine, that a simple and straightforward
> solution would be to make a new set of packages. Since we already have
> world and system sets, it wouldn't hurt to have a third, "safe" list
> which would be configurable by user. What I mean is:
>
> I consider ssh, postfix two very important packages (ssh is pretty
> stable, but hey, what if...) and I would most certainly not want to
> trigger emerge world and not notice postfix. So: I would add ssh and
> postfix to the "safe" set and do emerge -avu @safe, have a coffee and
> looked whether it's ok (mail are flowing, can login, etc. etc.) and
> then do emerge -avuD world and sleep well.
>
> I think this would be good solution for all of you?
>
>
> Regards Ladislav Laska
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> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote:
>> Patrick Lauer posted on Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:53:39 +0200 as excerpted:
>>
>>> On Saturday 17 October 2009 01:29:00 Daniel Bradshaw wrote:
>>>> Some packages, like findutils, are pretty robust and generally just get
>>>> on with working.
>>>> Other packages, like apache and ssh, need are more fragile and need
>>>> plenty of configuration.
>>> That's almost completely user-side configuration outside the influence
>>> of portage. emerge findutils and emerge apache "works" the same ...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Packages from the second group want emerging on their own, or in small
>>>> groups, the better to keep an eye out for notices about things that
>>>> might break, to update configs, and to check that they're running
>>>> happily.
>>> That's a very individual thing :)
>>> Sometimes apache is a critical service, sometimes apache is just there
>>> as a fallback if/when the lighttpd+php+... stack breaks.
>>
>> FWIW, there's a portage helper package, IDR the name as I have my own
>> system for this but it looks like it might be helpful here, that allows
>> users to pick and choose their updates.  One could run it multiple times,
>> updating (what the user considers) the critical stuff on its own, and
>> updating everything else in a big bunch.
>>
>> That seems like the answer here; it already exists; and it's in the tree
>> (unless it has been removed recently, I don't know as IDR the name).
>> Take a look thru app-portage and see what you find.
>>
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>> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
>> and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman
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