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From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@g.o>
Subject: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181]
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:36:50 -0400
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On 12/03/12 11:14 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote:
> On 03/12/2012 22:33, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 2012-03-12, at 9:22 PM, Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> And yes, I've already tested out udev-181 on a VM with a
>>> separate /usr.  With devtmpfs, the system fully boots just
>>> fine, no initramfs needed.  Guess what the only piece of
>>> software to mess up is? Udev.  I largely think it's a timing
>>> issue in OpenRC, however, because /usr DOES get mounted fairly
>>> quickly, but not before udevd starts.  But udevd does restart
>>> itself and everything looks to work fine.  If you aren't
>>> watching the terminal, you wouldn't even notice the failures.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> THANK YOU for testing this -- I could not forsee a reason, back 
>> when this process started, as to why openrc couldn't mount /usr 
>> before udev started.   since devtmpfs should provide the source 
>> devnode anyways.  It's good to have a (near) proof of that.
>> 
>> Ian
> 
> Yeah, I think it's an easy fix either in openrc or in an initscript
>  somewhere.  I changed nothing except my kernel (was missing
> devtmpfs -- it's not under Filesystems!), uninstalled
> module-init-tools, and installed kmod + udev-181.  Then rolled back
> the snapshot once I had the results.

Ah, right; kmod.. Tthere's pressure for that one to move to /usr
too, isn't there mgorny? ....  ok, nvm.
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References:
newsitem: unmasking udev-181
-- William Hubbs
Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181
-- Rich Freeman
Re: Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181
-- Luca Barbato
Re: Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181
-- William Hubbs
Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181]
-- Joshua Kinard
Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181]
-- Ian Stakenvicius
Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181]
-- Joshua Kinard
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