Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New project: Gentoo Seeds

[Andrew Gaffney]

Stuart Herbert wrote:
> On 9/20/06, Andrew Gaffney <agaffney@g.o> wrote:
>> Well, now it's gotten to the point where people are being sneaky and
>> underhanded
>> about this whole thing. Stuart (I believe) said that they had talked
>> to members
>> of releng about this, but the truth seems to be that Stuart talked
>> with rocket
>> and Xen support in stages and some random user associated with this
>> project
>> talked to plasmaroo about using catalyst for stage4 builds.
>
> Could you be a little more polite about our users _please_?  There was
> a day when I was just "some random user", just as there was for you
> and everyone else who is, or has been, a Gentoo dev.

By "some random user", I meant that plasmaroo had absolutely no idea that he was 
associated with this Gentoo project that you announced this morning. It was not 
an insult against our users.

> Here's one thing I don't get.  We have a project (Gentoo Seeds), which
> is attracting interest and volunteers both from inside the Gentoo dev
> ranks and (especially) outside.  Granted, it's not a lot of people,
> but interest is always welcome.  Assuming we go on, and are successful
> in establishing a sustainable project, that translates into extra
> folks working on releases (and fresh eyes to boot).  It might only be
> one or two people, but that's still one or two people more than what
> we had midnight last Sunday.
>
> Given all the complaints from releng in general (and Chris in
> particular) about there not being _enough_ folks working on releases,
> isn't this a _great_ opportunity for releng to recruit some
> additional, motivated folks to help solve that problem?  Can't you see
> that?

The help Releng needs is with *testing*. We've got building covered just fine.

> How much of a dent in this opportunity do you think this afternoon's
> outpouring has made?  How many folks, reading what you've said (and
> what you've ignored), will still feel motivated to consider maybe
> moving on to releng in the future?
>
> Could you have a think about that, and re-consider the unnecessary
> hostility and unjustified accusations that you're filling this thread
> with?

Unjustified accusations? Can you point out one "unjustified accusation" I've made?

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Andrew Gaffney                            http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/
Gentoo Linux Developer                                   Installer Project

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