El sáb, 23-06-2012 a las 12:24 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió:
> El sáb, 23-06-2012 a las 11:53 +0200, Peter Stuge escribió:
> > Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > What is hurting is people demanding features without specifying what
> > > the problem is
> > 
> > Part of enabling progress is to show a strong will to communicate,
> > with the goal of extracting common understanding from discussion.
> > 
> > In any project based on volunteer effort you must show that you too
> > are interested in giving, for anyone to give you anything.
> > 
> > When it's not obvious that you want to receive - to the point where
> > you drive the discussion (the horror!) in order to arrive at that
> > point of common understanding - then people will be upset and look
> > down on you, because dealing with you leaves too sour a taste behind.
> > 
> > 
> > //Peter
> 
> As Peter explains, I think it is now clear enough what I was demanding
> (about clarifying what is needed to get things in next EAPI to prevent
> issues like Tommy is suffering to get multilib stuff done), but I star
> to think Ciaran thinks it's easier to simply wear a blindfold on to keep
> thinking all what he says cannot be corrected at all, neither improved
> and others must follow his instructions blindly

Ciaran, simply think that, if PMS team agrees with a doc explaining what
needs to be provided and the procedure, you will also save time and not
need to follow this tedious discussions, all parts will benefit for
sure.