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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 09:27:01
Message-Id: 1160126645l.10360l.0l@spike
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide by Chris Gianelloni
1 On 2006.10.04 15:27, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
2
3 [snip]
4
5 >
6 > I'll give you Release Engineering's "status reports" for September,
7 > October, and November:
8 >
9 > September: taking a well-deserved break
10 > October: taking a well-deserved break
11 > November: taking a well-deserved break
12 >
13 > How about other projects that rely on things like upstream's release
14 > cycle? What about projects that just maintain ebuilds?
15 >
16 > Here's the games team's "status reports" for every month:
17 >
18 > "Fixed more bugs, added more packages, cleaned up some ebuilds."
19 >
20 > Now, perhaps what everyone would like, instead, would be status
21 > reports
22 > *where necessary* from certain projects?
23 >
24 > In fact, the council has been discussing asking a few projects about
25 > the
26 > status on some of their tasks. The main reason for this is for
27 > communications purposes. Basically, we'd just get a "Hey, where are
28 > you
29 > at on $x?" response from the teams.
30 >
31 > I don't *want* to drown projects in bureaucracy and paperwork. I want
32 > them to *accomplish* things, instead.
33 >
34 > --
35 > Chris Gianelloni
36 > Release Engineering Strategic Lead
37 > Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
38 > Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee
39 > Gentoo Foundation
40 >
41
42 Before you can have useful reports, you need a plan to report against.
43 Like a target date for 2007.0 and its contents. Such a plan depends on
44 other projects delivering the contents in accordance with their own
45 plans. Like real life, these plans will have external dependencies on
46 $UPSTREAM, that Gentoo has little or no control over.
47
48 With progress reports against plans and updated plans, everyone can see
49 whats happened, why some things haven't and what the fallback is, if
50 one is required.
51
52 The old saw, "If you don't have a plan, then plan to fail" remains true
53 for volunteer projects as well as funded ones.
54
55 The content and update rate of plans/reports can vary from project to
56 project and it need not be onerous. Reporting can even be by exception,
57 so to take your "well-deserved break" example, if it was in your plan,
58 no report would be needed.
59
60 Regards,
61
62 Roy Bamford
63 (NeddySeagoon)
64
65
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>